Close calls!

[waynemorgan]

I had a discussion with a former motorbike mechanic on Satuday - he suggested a shifter on a short string. His reasoning - if pulled over its a tool for doing maintenance on the bike should if break down - not a weapon like a baseball bat / length of pipe.

Personally I'm more concerned about staying alive and will get out of the way any way I can - RUN FORRRREST - as I believe it was put

[Jonno]

Outside of my usual 20 headchecks a second, normally I dont give the cages a look or a glance that they can see ffs, oh they love someone checkin there expensive assett that they dont own, just hustle to the front and OWN that space cop the crap whatever, but even on a 250cc bike you will end up in front once you are competant. Great advice to the newbie huh, simon says hands on head, I say hands on anything that rumbles and learn how to ride you fukers

Quite easy really attitude rules here, just make sure no one is running a red one as ya nail it................

[aus636]

Yeh see it all the time I just get in front and out of the way or hang back there is no in between.

[seiko1]

Yeh see it all the time I just get in front and out of the way or hang back there is no in between.

Bingo!
Give the Man a Cigar

[corvus2606]

the sharp spring loaded centre punches do a good number on any glass too.

all you need to do is push, and when it does the punch, bye bye window, spectacularly all over their lap.

can be done on the run too, only takes half a second

[robracer]

the sharp spring loaded centre punches do a good number on any glass too.

all you need to do is push, and when it does the punch, bye bye window, spectacularly all over their lap.

can be done on the run too, only takes half a second

That sounds like fun, you got a pic of one?...... never heard of them

[Glen]

Now seriously when was the last time anyone kicked a mirror off???? I presume it was the last time a HZ Holden cut you off because that's probably one of the last cars that didn't have folding mirrors

Live and let live, everyone fucks up sometime. Ride defensively and they won't get you anyway. It aint that hard

Glen...Grasshopper....allow me to enlighten you! Modern day mirrors are actually a far more effective target for damage than the mirrors of old.....ala HZ Kingswood as the example you offfered. You, see, you very obviously have very little experience with mirror relocation and thus should refrain from making comments which are baseless! Please allow me to share some information with you which may throw a different light on the subject. Modern mirrors for the most part are spring loaded to return to the original position. A small alteration to it's seated position accompanied by a variation in speed of the intersecting vehicles, allows quite a deal of kinetic energy to be released back into the mirror, thus causing the mirror to shatter into a million pieces. Again, some modern mirrors just have a small slot into which they are seated to retain position, however, once again, the wing or fixtures are usually quite fragile and again, a speed differential of the two intersecting vehicles can cause the actual stalk or mount to fail, thus destalking the mirror. It's all about how it's performed Glen, not the type of mirror being addressed. I hope this assists with any future decisions you may make in traffic Glen .

Ahh so when my wifes parked Pulsar got it's mirror clipped by a bus and the mirror simply sprung back on it's stalk without breaking, that was less force than can be exerted by the average enraged motorcyclist.....oh hang on, that's right we're all above average motorcyclists who never crash or do anything that would endager anyone else......now I get it, how foolish do I feel

[DMonkey]

the sharp spring loaded centre punches do a good number on any glass too.

all you need to do is push, and when it does the punch, bye bye window, spectacularly all over their lap.

can be done on the run too, only takes half a second

That sounds like fun, you got a pic of one?...... never heard of them

[MadKaw]

Sooo, who are these "cagers" that are refered to with so much venom.?

[ZXR750]

Now seriously when was the last time anyone kicked a mirror off???? I presume it was the last time a HZ Holden cut you off because that's probably one of the last cars that didn't have folding mirrors

Live and let live, everyone fucks up sometime. Ride defensively and they won't get you anyway. It aint that hard

Glen...Grasshopper....allow me to enlighten you! Modern day mirrors are actually a far more effective target for damage than the mirrors of old.....ala HZ Kingswood as the example you offfered. You, see, you very obviously have very little experience with mirror relocation and thus should refrain from making comments which are baseless! Please allow me to share some information with you which may throw a different light on the subject. Modern mirrors for the most part are spring loaded to return to the original position. A small alteration to it's seated position accompanied by a variation in speed of the intersecting vehicles, allows quite a deal of kinetic energy to be released back into the mirror, thus causing the mirror to shatter into a million pieces. Again, some modern mirrors just have a small slot into which they are seated to retain position, however, once again, the wing or fixtures are usually quite fragile and again, a speed differential of the two intersecting vehicles can cause the actual stalk or mount to fail, thus destalking the mirror. It's all about how it's performed Glen, not the type of mirror being addressed. I hope this assists with any future decisions you may make in traffic Glen .

Ahh so when my wifes parked Pulsar got it's mirror clipped by a bus and the mirror simply sprung back on it's stalk without breaking, that was less force than can be exerted by the average enraged motorcyclist.....oh hang on, that's right we're all above average motorcyclists who never crash or do anything that would endager anyone else......now I get it, how foolish do I feel

Sorry Glen but logic and common sense does not seem to have a place in this thread.
I would like to know how safe it would be to get close enough to the car to attack the mirror. Wouldn't hitting the mirror knock you off balance and possibly into said car or an on coming vehicle???

[robracer]

Sorry Glen but logic and common sense does not seem to have a place in this thread.
I would like to know how safe it would be to get close enough to the car to attack the mirror. Wouldn't hitting the mirror knock you off balance and possibly into said car or an on coming vehicle???

True..... If you have ever clipped a mirror accidentally whilst lane splitting you would know that it does not effect your balance as
you should be able to compensate quickly...... NB I have only done this a couple of times & its embarrassing even though it was non intentional, both times I had a sinking guilty feeling

[tim]

If you have ever clipped a mirror accidentally whilst lane splitting ............. its embarrassing even though it was non intentional, both times I had a sinking guilty feeling

Ditto. I clipped one a few weeks ago

Stopped, turned around and waved and nodded to them to apologise. Guy gave me that "nice one - dickhead" look; cue aforementioned "sinking guilty feeling". Apologise again, forgot about it

I'm glad they're not solid, would knock you about a lot more if they didn't fold.