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Post by Smitty »

yep
that topic has come up again
Vicroads have called for tenders.
all in the supposed name of road safety
my arse.....




from their site...
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/ten ... ContractNo

Contract No: 6198
Contract Type: Request for Tender
Title: Testing Motorcycle Numberplate Decals

Closing Date: 09/03/2005
Advertised Date: 09/02/2005

Description:
Testing of motor cycle number plate decals for application and retention characteristics along with readability following accelerated weathering routines consisting of exposure to UV, salt spray, high pressure water and grit impact in addition to thermal cycling. Testing facilities are required to have NATA, ISO or another international testing facility accreditation or ISO 9000 series certification.


Contact Person: Chris Marston
Phone: (03) 9854 2752


Availability of Documents: On or after the advertisement date, between 8:30am and 5:00pm at:
Contract Services Department
Ground Floor
South Building
60 Denmark Street
Kew
Victoria 3101

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(03) 9854 2430
(03) 9854 1953
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Stick it up their arse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:










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thats tender for motorcycle plates has been out for ages so they can toll them on citylink.
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mrmina wrote:thats tender for motorcycle plates has been out for ages so they can toll them on citylink.


roflmao.....
tender issued 9 February 2005
todays date?...... is 10 February 2005

ONE DAY is ages :shock:
so whats an eon mina?????? forever?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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money hungry pricks...

Past 1 or 2 cars this morning with no number plates at all.. perhaps they should get their priorities sorted.... but we all know that's not gunna happen...
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FNP have come up again, sorry Smitty but seriously that wrong the FNP issue and the Frontal ID have never gone away.
FNP's have been tested on 7 bikes actively now for the last 2 years, this is just an ongoing incident in the whole picture.
Before FNP's can be brought into Vic the rest of Aus needs to accept them and to date South Aus and Qld are not interested :)
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Makes me proud to be South Aussie.
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Musty wrote:Before FNP's can be brought into Vic the rest of Aus needs to
accept them and to date South Aus and Qld are not interested :)


Musty
ya better tell the SA plod... they already have 'em on their bikes :(
I thought it was SA and VIC pushing for FNPs
when I saw the Qld Transport Minister say No way on the Teev
but never trust a pollie

can i direct you to here
where all the Transport Ministers agree and state that frontal ID systems for bikes will be implemented by June 06.....not long
http://www.atcouncil.gov.au/pubs/ACTION_PLAN_05_06.pdf
Page 33 ..under actions

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yeah i know all the blah blah on FNP's, at the last AMC meeting we had conformation the South Aussies were stationary on this issue and to date still are.
Victoria is the only state pushing this issue, and they are pushing it every chance they get.
FNP's now have been trialed here in Aus since 2001, Victoria ahve 7 bikes with FNP's and other states also are trialing Frontal ID which is a completely different story.

Last year we were told implementation by mid 2004, and yeap this year we are once again told by mid 2005!
Now FNP's can only come in if all states of Australia agree and currently they do not so as long as NSW, WA and SA hold out where larfing.

Here's the best part here in Victoria i was the only one playing this issue until i resigned from the MRA, since then no one has touched it. So free reign for the government.
The MRA now has no sway with the Gov, VMAC are not in the mainstream comunication on this subject and we have no one else. The Ulysses are busy with other issues and the NSWMCC are fighting the NSW RTA on more important subjects.

One last thing before i stood down from the MRA i posted almost everwhere another Gov document that stated FNP's need to be discussed heavily this year, it also showed FNP's are now and have been for a while a Federal issue not a state issue, so in stopping the FNP's Australia has to stand as one and the way things look where a long way from this.
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not my fault i never started it.

City Link are the one's who are raising this issue every chance they get, the documentation showing this is easily found and everywhere, also the study there going on is a 25 year old theasis by the Yanks which has now been updated by a Swede and shows there can and will be up to a 15% reduction in motorcycle fatalities with the introduction of FNP's
Now with the stats that have come from the four countries that still use FNP's it also shows speed related issues have been reduced by 45%

with stats like that how can a Government say no! But further more to that how much money does City Link stand to earn with FNP's?

These reports were looked at by the MRA last year just a shame they seem to have forgotten this information.
Remember another point to on failing with FNP's which i doubt will happen, Frontal ID will be introduced very soon afterwards.

Frontal ID has already been developed and is in the final testing stage now in England where it has past all tests. It will be possible to implement Frontal ID by November 2005.
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Musty wrote:..snip..Here's the best part here in Victoria i was the only one playing this issue until i resigned from the MRA, since then no one has touched it. So free reign for the government.
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Musty that is very interesting
as an MRA member (who has watched all the goings on :shock: )
I don't remember a 'Musty' in the postings there
now i know you ride a mighty Gpx and i know some MRA ppl
who ride GPX's (black ones) but no Musty
and I am certain I have never met you in the flesh...
(well, not that certain :lol: )

so after that
what else is there you have between your ears on this topic????
please..... :D

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I'm the former Pres Smitty, i took over from Alex now i seem to be there slander post, but that's fine not as if there doing anything of importance these days.

FNP's were to say my pet project Smitty, and still are to the point i relay with the Ulysses and other motorcycle groups on the subject.
It's on the books and always will be but FNP's is a Federal issue but i also said last year i believe FNP's to be a dead end issue or a media issue to stop people from understanding what Frontal ID is all about.

I believe FNP's will be replaced to quell the angry motorcyclists but Frontal ID will replace the idea and this is where the Gov will be able to earn revenue.
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Musty wrote:FNP's were to say my pet project .....I believe FNP's will be replaced to quell the angry motorcyclists but Frontal ID will replace the idea and this is where the Gov will be able to earn revenue.


Musty,
Thanks for the info on FNPs. You mention Frontal ID a lot....what is this, how is it implemented, etc. I don't know what this is.
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Musty, oh i never knew that was you!!! was that your resignation letter put up as a pdf all across the net? (i remember the letter pretty clearly, considering how long its been since i read it).

This FNP thing has been going on for ages, but as you said everyone is either too busy or just sweeping it out-of-sight-out-of-mind.

I'm wondering at which point citylink/vic govt will give up, before or after putting legislation in place to impliment a 1/2 arsed sollution. I'm hoping before. You think that it's something that has to be introduced federally, not just in state govt? yeah i guess so, now im going to just start talking to myself.

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Musty wrote:I'm the former Pres Smitty, i took over from Alex now i seem to be there slander post, but that's fine not as if there doing anything of importance these days.

FNP's were to say my pet project Smitty, and still are to the point i relay with the Ulysses and other motorcycle groups on the subject.


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I now know who...
and
I also know where I have seen that black Gpx before..in a ride photo
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as a Ulyssian (yeah I know, I am in lotta things)
all I can say is keep up the good work


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