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BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:12 pm

You have them by the balls, I would not take any other judgment other than it be thrown out of court, you were not speeding at all that's what I heard, let them prove otherwise, the dick head is looking for a way out.

Draven · Post by **Draven** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:21 pm

i dunno dude they have it all on dash cam so there is no way ou of the speeding charge...

Benno · Post by **Benno** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:22 pm

Without a legal reading of your speed, they technically cannot prove you were speeding I dont think? Anyone here know different?

Pretty sure they need something to say you were speeding. Not sure if their word is enough, without the technology to back it up.

Pabs · Post by **Pabs** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:22 pm

I hope you've got em Greg
Best of luck to you mate
pabs

goanna_38 · Post by **goanna_38** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:25 pm

87Ninja wrote:I doubtthey will drop the charges all together i was still speeding way over the limit, we are just softening the charges down a bit

Speeding were you? How much? How do they prove it? If the cops think you might have murdered someone but they can't prove it, do you think they will just charge you with manslaughter in the absence of evidence? Case dismissed Baby!! If they obviously can't prove how fast you were going, how can they charge you with speeding? What speed do they settle on?

"Well look sir, we know you were speeding but we can't prove it. Would you mind if we booked you for a lower speed? We just need to get some money out of you to keep the roads safe."

Tell them to take a jump unless they are going to drop everything. They can't let you go to court and prove their radars are faulty. That will set a very expensive precedent.

Post by **robracer** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:49 pm

Yay Greg..... outlook seems much better now...

mick_dundee · Post by **mick_dundee** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:37 pm

Dear Greg letter coming soon I reckon, sorry Greg, we fucked up, we know your bike can't do 183 and so would you perhaps settle for say... 160? I mean it was a windy night remember and that jacket you wear looks markedly like a sail from where we sat....

Burky · Post by **Burky** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:06 pm

WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT

Another 3 weeks why can't they just admit it, ok you "MAY" have been going over the limit but the camera isn't that acurate, so the gave you a lesser charge, oh please. Toss the case out of court all to bloody hard Greg buy them some of those Krispy Creames on the way next time. TO THROW AT THE JUDGE IF IT DOES NOT GOT THE WAY IT SHOULD:!:

My son does it and it works for him

Best of luck dude and keep us informed

kellz · Post by **kellz** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:34 pm

well hopefully 3 more weeks and its all over with.
if i have a licence i will be at the next bbq as i only have 4 weeks left of classes and 4 weeks of exams and prac

Barrabob · Post by **Barrabob** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:31 am

I tried the open palm gestures and remorse approach at a appeal once and your way better off attacking the credibility of there stuff/evidence if you can becuase once they know they have the last word they will give it too you up the arse big time.

And in my case the clown didnt know what he was talking about but i do have a prodigous record I think it fills A A4 box. lol

So much for being polite.

You might get lucky I have seen those letters of withdrawl before where a couple of young coppers in a divy van tried to estimate my speed and at the same time i estimated what theres had to be to do a u turn and catch me at that suposed speed.

I just dont have the time to defend it generally but some are fair enought too.

goood luck walking sucks.

photomike666 · Post by **photomike666** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:38 am

don't we have double jepoardy laws in aus? Can't be tried for the same crime twice. Charge him with 183, failed. Ok, charge him with 160! I don't think so. They lay a specific charge, then have to prove you guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Your dyno sheds enough reasonable doubt to throw out their evidence, and so the case is dismissed.

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:58 am

87Ninja wrote:i dunno dude they have it all on dash cam so there is no way ou of the speeding charge...

Is it still on the "dash cam" good I say, ask them how that speed or any other speed is correct?, If you solicitor can't get it thrown out of court and you receive costs I would get another one

L-A · Post by **L-A** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:29 pm

Good luck mate - with some small amount of luck the judge will laugh this all the way down the courthouse steps

Out of curiousity - if they wrote a ticket for 183, its proven the speed wasn't 183 - won't that make the ticket....invalid (for want of a better word)??

So, that ticket is invalid and doesn't count - there aren't any MORE tickets so....wouldn't that be it?

Its like if they write the wrong rego/bike make on the ticktes - the ticket is wrong therefore it doesn't count?? Big boys rules - one chance only.

L-A

FrogZ · Post by **FrogZ** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:42 pm

If its Qld they just send you an ammended ticket.

greenmeanie · Post by **greenmeanie** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:54 pm

How many charges are you facing ?

Is it just excessive speed more than 45 over?

If you are facing multiple charges the prosecution may drop a charge or 2.

I hope you get a judge who doesn't have a pet hate against speeding motorcyclists.