I emailed the Minister about why Qld uses Speed camera's

[aardvark]

Now, before I get started, let me say that speed cameras shit me. They make it waaaaaay to hard for me to reach my quota. (heheheheh)

They acknowledged that there were far more people getting injured or killed on motorcycles....NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!!!

And given this, I think it's more than acceptable for the government to do whatever they can do reduce accidents. An accident where a person is killed or seriously injured costs the community anywhere between $500,000 and a million bucks. More if there is significant ongoing rehabilitation required. This money is supplied by us, the tax payers, and could be put to better use such as paying for more hospital beds, more teachers, better roads, increased super for pollies....

Give us somewhere to ride ya fukwits, stop closing tracks & building out around them & then saying "sorry fella's, I kno the tracks been here for ages, but this family has just built their house up the road last week & think it's now to noisy."

And doesn't that just shit ya! I moved in next door to the airforce base. I knew it was there when I moved in and I know that the planes make plenty of noise. But I reckon they look cool when they are practicing bomb drops on my house. I wonder if I complain enough about the noise if I can get them to move the base?

Make insurance companies offer some type of track insurance.

I'd go to the track more often if this was the case. No doubt about it. But knowing that it didn't matter if my bike when sliding down the track would also mean I'd be pushing a lot harder.

Insurance companies are businesses, in business to make money for the shareholders. As such, no insurance company in their right mind would offer insurance for bikes at a track!

Make advanced driving & riding courses

Top idea, however, there is a percentage of riders that will think they are now far better riders and will push even harder on the road.

It was only the other weekend that there was a big article in the paper about there being a big blitz to reduce the number of crashes etc. It's funny how they started this last weekend, & i was talking to a guy at work who said he was up Mt Glorious & there were cops pulling over nearly every single bike.....For Speeding u ask........NOPE! booking everyone they could for Fenderectomy's & non standard exhaust cans

Everything that moves gets stopped and spoken to for a number of reasons. 1) To allow Police to check your licence. 2) To try and stop you returning to the area or from riding there in the first place. 3) Once you've been stopped, you'll remember that the coppers were there and they hope as a result, you'll slow down.

Yeah the police presence may slow a few down, but it is also turning motorcyclists against the powers that be.

Mate, it's the cops. Motorcyclists are already "against" them.

How about organising events for motorcyclists, where the cops are involved to teach skills, not take money?

I know they do this in the UK, but it's not feasible here. We don't have enough resources to be able to man events like this and other than that, the government is scared to heck that if someone came off on one of these types of events that they'd be held responsible and end up forking out millions of dollars.

Like those you beaut cable jobs they got running right along the 110kph zones

Floating around somewhere is a report where they tested the WRB's with motorcycle crash test dummies. The WRB's didn't significantly increase the inury or fatality rate of riders hitting it. I agree that there has to be a better option but someone has to come up with it first.

At the end of the day the number of fatalities and injuries on the road needs to be decreased. One of the ways of doing this is to keep up the level of enforcement. We can bitch and moan all we want, but if we don't brake the rules, we don't get punished.

We know we aren't supposed to put noisy cans on our bikes. But we do. We know we aren't supposed to cut off our fenders. But we do. We know we aren't supposed to treat the road like a race track. But we do.

It's about time the people in this country started taking responsibility for their own actions, rather than blaming everyone else.

[smek]

How about organising events for motorcyclists, where the cops are involved to teach skills, not take money?

They do something like that here. I don't know a lot of the details, but I think it's organised by the yarra ranges shire (where the spurs are) and the police do a training ride through the area a couple of times a year.

[gizmo]

Make advanced driving & riding courses

Top idea, however, there is a percentage of riders that will think they are now far better riders and will push even harder on the road.

That is going to happen no matter what we do, there will always be a percentage of people that break the law or be silly & to some degree that's what living in a free country enables us all to do, but the problem seems that governments think they can help save everyone & that's just not going to happen.

[Barrabob]

Floating around somewhere is a report where they tested the WRB's with motorcycle crash test dummies. The WRB's didn't significantly increase the inury or fatality rate of riders hitting it. I agree that there has to be a better option but someone has to come up with it first.

Yehh the cops encouraged me to leave my bike in the garage...SPEED camera think i have had 1 ticket off them since they where introduced for 1 km over although it seemed i was going quickerfigured they where trying to get my licence slowly.

Yappa theres some driver education on up mt nebo somewhere tomorrow would be worth a look, just tell them if they want any answers off ya they have to arrest you first and turn up in a cage.

[YAPPA]

Jase, I know we ain't gunna get insurance for the track & shit as it all comes back to the mighty $. as for the courses, yeah there are going to be the few that push harder, but isn't that what we got now, shit I may have never riden a bike in my life, go do a 2 or 3 day very very basic Qride course, which is basically, yeah you can change gears & keep the thing from falling over go out the next day & buy a zx10 weapon, I have been riding for quite a few years now but realisticly don't think I am good enough to have that sort of power on tap underneath me, besides, I'm pissed at only getting 4-5000k's from a rear tyre on my old 6r, let alone what I would do with the linelock capabilities of a 10r Maybe that is what we should be looking at having a set of standard times etc. & b4 you can go buy a weapon you gotta be able to do X time around X track..how many 20 year olds do ya see on big bore bikes, same goes for the mid life crisis sector as well, str8 out & buy the biggest thing they can As 4 the organised rides, same as a track day, b4 you go, you sign that waiver that says hey dickhead, what your doing IS dangerous, there ARE RISKS, & if ya push 2 hard & fukup, it's YOUR FAULT!
I kno there is always 2 sides, & I agree that every1 is way 2 quick to blame evgerybody else these days instead of themselves, & thats fucked up 2!!!
The cops can pull people over & give warnings or advice without writing up tickets, dont get me wrong, a large majority are ok, & just doing their job, a job most of us wouldn't like at all, but some are just deadset assholes.
SOLUTION....stop importing weapons, buy back scheme for anything above 250cc (yeay, we'd get rid of hardlys) govern the output of everything, & watch the price of bucket racers skyrocket!!!!!!
it ain't a perfect world so there ain't gunna b a perfect solution

Bob, you think i'm gunna go anywhere near where cops & the transport dept are going 2 b with my noisy fuggen can....noooooo way! I would have to turn up in the hilux or I would end up in the cage with the pretty coloured lights on top

[Barrabob]

Bob, you think i'm gunna go anywhere near where cops & the transport dept are going 2 b with my noisy fuggen can....noooooo way! I would have to turn up in the hilux or I would end up in the cage with the pretty coloured lights on top Laughing

I think thats what there working towards up there, its been that long since I have been up there (6 months) that i dont know if they have fixed anything.

It used to be my regular ride and there is some very clear and fixable hazards and i will be there to listen as well as to point out that they can fix some peoples driveways so there isnt debris on the road 24/7.

A lot of the accidents is where picnicers turn out in front of bikes.

Anyways i will be asking the question " will lengthening our mudflaps increase our chances of survival"??? Because i ride a bike with a short one.

[chameleon]

I've had a glimpse or two behind the scenes and believe me, if a politician is swayed in a certain direction its because either
a). There doing it to make political headway or
b). It's the payoff for a bribe they have collected.

In the established political parties the bastards are corrupt, TO THE CORE. I wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire.

If you want to make a "real" difference, and you don't have the couple of million needed to bribe all the necessary politicians then the next best thing would be to join the ruling party as a hanger-oner doing free campaign work and try to get into the ear of the ones making the decisions that way. Writing a state member is useless as they wont even see your letter. Reread the first post, a lacky answered, with a stereo type "I have been asked to reply" That lacky was probably asked "Once" 2 years ago, asked to read and answer ALL complaints from grubby little people like us

That's because the politcians think they are "important" and have better things to do than read 200 complaints every week.

[YAPPA]

Bob, I haven't been up there 4 probably 12 months, did you go & have a listen at all?

[Barrabob]

Nah yappa they had one up mt tambourine today the mt glourious one is towards the end of the month.

I will be going along for a look and I dare say i wont be alone, apparently theres dvds and stuff and any sort of education I get that doesnt involve a fine of some sort is good.

Anyways if i get a chance i will be asking about mudflaps and stuff, geez they usually look at my bike and drool and go running for the manual to try and work out if its actually leagal, I think its a mixture of gold shiney bits and mr sheen and at the time i was doing a track day a fortnight so my tyres always had that recently shagged look and bally bits hanging off the edges.

Anyways the bike will stay in the garage cause the spiders need a home.

think its the 25th.