zx 9/12r Motor

zedx · Post by **zedx** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:30 pm

Hey. Can anyone help me, I am looking to put a zx12r motor in a zx9r frame and I am wondering whether it is possible. Any comments or website links would be appreciated. Thanks.

Smitty · Post by **Smitty** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:12 pm

here ya go.........

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ZX12R-Engine-01- ... dZViewItem

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:27 pm

I think it would be a hell of an expensive transplant..........they are *totally* different design frames.......

good luck

Smitty · Post by **Smitty** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:02 pm

Gosling1 wrote:I think it would be a hell of an expensive transplant..........they are *totally* different design frames.......

good luck

ummm
Gos
lil' secret courtesy of the 'silver' book
I remember reading that.....
the 12's original frame design was done using a 9r engine
and the 12R engine started out on the drawing board
....as a bored out 9R :twisted:

so maybe not so hard

99coconuts · Post by **99coconuts** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:29 pm

NFI, but do let me know what you''re doing with the 9r motor if it ends up hapenning mate

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:46 pm

Smitty wrote:....Gos...lil' secret courtesy of the 'silver' book
I remember reading that.....the 12's original frame design was done using a 9r engine....and the 12R engine started out on the drawing board
....as a bored out 9R so maybe not so hard

hmmm, maybe there *is* something in that.....see, thats what happens when you don't have the damn book !!!! :lol:

It would be a *hell* of a hybrid.......I don't think a stock 9R frame would cope with the HP of a 12, but of course you can always brace them.....

hmmmmmmm

Smitty · Post by **Smitty** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:01 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
It would be a *hell* of a hybrid.......I don't think a stock 9R frame would cope with the HP of a 12, but of course you can always brace them.....

hmmmmmmm

as the book sez
soon as they stuck the proper 12r engine in the frame..blah
so
the 'trial' monocoque frame got re-done..to what we know today
is in the 12

Nanna10r · Post by **Nanna10r** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:15 pm

Top idea but .... dont you have to remove the tacho n the rear brake caliper (and everything plastic,metal,rubber & liquid inbetween) to change the spark plugs in the 12r now ?.
Cheers Brett

SocialSecurity · Post by **SocialSecurity** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:49 am

yeah completely different frame design... 12R goes over the engine, 9R goes around the engine

but hey nothings 'impossible' :wink:

smek · Post by **smek** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:07 am

what about if you put the motor in a trailer and towed it behind the bike

I-K · Post by **I-K** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:12 pm

SocialSecurity wrote:yeah completely different frame design... 12R goes over the engine, 9R goes around the engine

The engines mount up the same way, though; top and bottom bolts across the back of the gearbox and a bolt on each side at the back of the head.

I sincerely doubt that a 12 head would fit between the 9 frame rails, though. The 12 is a significantly bigger engine.

SocialSecurity · Post by **SocialSecurity** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:16 pm

yeah by that i meant "if the engine is too big to put a frame around, how will it shoehorn into a little tiny 9R frame" :wink:

I-K · Post by **I-K** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:16 pm

SocialSecurity wrote:yeah by that i meant "if the engine is too big to put a frame around,

It's not, though. The Busa and the ZZ-R11/1200 engines are both bigger than the ZX12 unit, yet they both run conventional dual-beam frames.

The ZX12 doesn't run that monocoque frame because the size of its engine made using a conventional wraparound dual-beam frame unfeasible.

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:23 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
Smitty wrote:....Gos...lil' secret courtesy of the 'silver' book
I remember reading that.....the 12's original frame design was done using a 9r engine....and the 12R engine started out on the drawing board
....as a bored out 9R so maybe not so hard

hmmm, maybe there *is* something in that.....see, thats what happens when you don't have the damn book !!!!

It would be a *hell* of a hybrid.......I don't think a stock 9R frame would cope with the HP of a 12, but of course you can always brace them.....

hmmmmmmm

And yourself I'd reckon!!! :lol:

zedx · Post by **zedx** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:09 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Has given me something to think about when it comes to attempting to transfer the motor into my frame.