How to show my noobieness...if that is indeed a word...

wazza1234 · Post by **wazza1234** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:07 pm

Easy question. How do I push start a bike? Cant be that hard can it?

Also, how easily should a gpx250 battery go flat? Mine lasts 2 starts, if it stalls on those 2 starts I cannot start it again (the starts are like 2 seconds, not 5-10 secs). Also, I have a little miss. I havent noticed it when idling but only when accelerating. Happened on the way to work this morning town riding and then on the way hoe at 130km/h....scared the shit outta me. Suggestions?

aardvark · Post by **aardvark** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:17 pm

Put the bike in second gear, pull the clutch in, run down the road next to the bike, jump onto the seat and dump the clutch with a little twist of the throttle. I used to own a Z250 and did that every time I had to start it because I was too much of a cheapskate to buy a new battery.

Sounds to me like your battery is shagged, which could also explain your "miss".

Go and buy a new one.

ZX10R King · Post by **ZX10R King** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:17 pm

Sounds like ur battery may need replacing, which could also have something to do with causing the miss. low power in battery gives low spark.

And to push start a bike, i would suggest 2nd gear, down a hill, ignition on, roll, let put clutch, and it should start

Someone else may have a different view

Shifty · Post by **Shifty** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:23 pm

Put it in second and pull the clutch in. Get someone to push you. Stand up on the pegs. Drop down onto the seat suddenly at the same time as you drop the clutch. Easy

Sounds liek you have other problems that need fixing first...

wazza1234 · Post by **wazza1234** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:26 pm

will have to go first due to the weird gearbox in the gpx...will give it a try tonight.

Shifty · Post by **Shifty** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:30 pm

Rock the bike back and forth a little while trying to select second, you should be able to get it.

Most bikes are tricky to get second when they're not running.

wazza1234 · Post by **wazza1234** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:34 pm

even with the positive neutral finder???? :shock:

Also, how long should the battery last for example if it was turning over the starter for an extended period of time?

mike-s · Post by **mike-s** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:09 pm

The positive neutral finder works on the dentrefugal principle. if the output gear isnt rotating beyond a certain speed, then there are little locking ball bearings that stop it from going from neutral to second. So either get the bike rolling in neutral or get someone to give you a shove until your doing 10-15km/h, then upshift to second (third is also good) and drop on your arse as you let out the clutch. Dropping on your arse in the seat forced the rear wheel to load up against the road & increase traction.

Lastly, if its being contankerous whatever you do, dont take the clutch in for a second or three after its fired up at the least as the engine will be a bit unstable and might stall out on you.

aardvark · Post by **aardvark** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:09 pm

wazza1234 wrote:Also, how long should the battery last for example if it was turning over the starter for an extended period of time?

If the battery was in good nick, anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes.

ohno102go · Post by **ohno102go** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:27 pm

1:tie a rope around head stem
2:tie a rope around towbar, alternatively tie other end of first rope to tow bar and go to point 4
3:tie ropes together
4: drag bike to dealership
5: purchase new bike
6: untie trade in bike
7: Call NRMA ask for tow truck for car
8: Ride bike home

or
1: buy new battery

wazza1234 · Post by **wazza1234** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:34 pm

ohno102go wrote:5: purchase new bike

will if i could convince the missus I 'need' a zzr600, I would

new battery looks like the goer.

ZX10R King · Post by **ZX10R King** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:36 pm

wazza1234 wrote:
ohno102go wrote:5: purchase new bike

will if i could convince the missus I 'need' a zzr600, I would new battery looks like the goer.

Just Do It :lol:

She can't make ya take it back

jewjew · Post by **jewjew** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:38 pm

is the bike new, if it is replace the battery, they seem to have a faulty cell......mine did

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:43 pm

wazza1234 wrote:will have to go first due to the weird gearbox in the gpx...will give it a try tonight.

hahaha can i watch as it spits u over the bars from compression lock up??...lol..seriously..1st doesnt work..too much compression..or too little ..or sumthin...

start parking near hills...

ohno102go · Post by **ohno102go** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:43 pm

thats the great thing about this process, you can use it for just about anything.....use the same process for your missus, you can pick new ones up just about anywhere these days... even if they are in short supply you can get em mail order i hear... just google it mate...