Opinions Please

Plaz · Post by **Plaz** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:26 pm

Are these good value?, shipping to AU is another $32.00US

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/05-Kawasaki-ZX6R-ZX6RR-Galfer-SS-front-brake-lines_W0QQitemZ4588421100QQcategoryZ35592QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

varden · Post by **varden** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:34 pm

would they be ADR approved for use on aus roads?

Just one more thing to get defected for if not.

Post by **Wattie** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:37 pm

this may be a stupid question...
but why would they be illegal??
Buells come with braided lines standard.
as far as i know it improves braking performance, why would they not like it??

medicjohn · Post by **medicjohn** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:40 pm

Mate, I would go local! ADR is a big concern and secondly if things go awry and you spring a leak , so to speak, you can get it fixed under waranty.

Price saving is not all that significant!!!

medicjohn · Post by **medicjohn** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:45 pm

Wattie, bikes that come in fitted with braided lines to be sold in Aus (by the trade) meet ADR's

Often parts bought in US/BRITAIN/ITALY, dont meet or havent been tested to ADR's

varden · Post by **varden** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:50 pm

Wattie wrote:
this may be a stupid question...
but why would they be illegal??
Buells come with braided lines standard.
as far as i know it improves braking performance, why would they not like it??

i learned the ADR lesson the hard way, brought bike with aftermarket braded brake lines installed, rode it around for a year, went to get RWC for sale, failed on braided lines....not ADR approved....$200 later to supply and fit standard items....not happy jan.

Plaz · Post by **Plaz** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:54 pm

medicjohn wrote:Mate, I would go local! ADR is a big concern and secondly if things go awry and you spring a leak , so to speak, you can get it fixed under waranty.

Price saving is not all that significant!!!

Linky Linky John, all I could find were product descriptions and data.

medicjohn · Post by **medicjohn** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:31 pm

http://www.showandgo.com.au/per/per.htm ... ~mainFrame

I have bought from theses guys several times, and found their advice, service and support exemplary.

Give them a call with your requirements.

If that fails, Dave at Dynobike in Melb will give you a good deal, measure the length (Left and Right) and he willl make and supply. You will have to fit. I did that for my zx6r trakkie. Easy as.....

Let me know if you need his contact detail

Barrabob · Post by **Barrabob** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:23 pm

Or you could try these

http://www.johnstamnas.com/

I had a local in brisbane make me a set of braided lines for my previous bike and they had sleves crimped into them with adr written all over them.

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:34 pm

Wattie wrote:this may be a stupid question...
but why would they be illegal??
Buells come with braided lines standard.
as far as i know it improves braking performance, why would they not like it??

its not a stupid question at all, heaps of people ask exactly the same thing at rego, when they get knocked back because they have braided lines that work, not standard rubber lines that flex, and crack, and expand under pressure, and don't work real well at all.........but they are legal.......its patently bloody ridiculous.

I have made my own lines for track bikes, go-karts etc etc using the correct swaging tools and fittings, started doing this about 10 years ago, and to this day not one set has failed........no ADR stamp mind you :oops:

before anyone starts on the 'its the brakes, they gotta work properly' thing, well yes, correct, that is why I spend hours making them, bench-testing for pressure, before fitting. They work. I stop. :lol:

For 99% of road riders, get ADR-approved lines ( Hel, Goodrich etc) these are fine and dandy. Keep your old lines for rego purposes.

cheers

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:04 am

Once the lines are fitted, the bike would still pass a roadworthy wouldnt it? Its not as if the person doing the roadworthy is going to check the brand and look to see if that manufacturer is creating ADR compliant hoses right?

aardvark · Post by **aardvark** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:34 pm

I guess they figure that if it has and ADR stamp/badge/marking then it has probably been tested by a reputable source and there is a fairly good chance they work.

If you buy ones that don't have the ADR stamp, then any Joe Blo could have made them and they may not have been tested at all, or properly.

The govt. are just covering their own arses.

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:15 pm

StereoHead wrote:Once the lines are fitted, the bike would still pass a roadworthy wouldnt it? Its not as if the person doing the roadworthy is going to check the brand and look to see if that manufacturer is creating ADR compliant hoses right?

probably not. Without the 'ADR' sticker/stamp, whatever, you can guarantee that they will be canned by an inspector. In some jurisdictions, even having an 'ADR' sticker is no guarantee of passing a roadworthy.

As Jason says, the Gov't is just covering its arse.

I only use my own lines for "Off-road Competition Use Only".......... :wink:

Local rally nerd charges $700 for knocking up a set of 'approved' brake lines. I knock up exactly the same thing for under $200. Competition use only......

cheers

NoBrakeOrBrainFadeDave

Steve_TLS · Post by **Steve_TLS** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:10 pm

Read the wording of your insurance policy carefully.

I have ADR approved braided lines - but if one fails and I claim - they can refuse me because if a modification contributed to the accident, they have an opt out.

If it was a spongey rubber OEM line that failed and caused the crash, I'm covered.

(Would they go as far as saying because you upgraded your braking system and locked your brakes and lowsided we're not paying because the modification contributed to the crash? dunno)

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:31 pm

Steve_TLS wrote:(Would they go as far as saying because you upgraded your braking system and locked your brakes and lowsided we're not paying because the modification contributed to the crash? dunno)

I believe that is exactly what they would say. Same thing for modified wheels on your car, etc etc, they will always look for a way out of paying if they legally can.

They sure won't complain about your braided lines pulling you up when that taxi pulled out of a side-street, or that pedestrian who walked out in front of you, oh no, thank goodness you had braided lines on then, why it saved us a fortune on payout co$t$ :evil:

ps If the pesestrian is Harold Scruby, just pretend you left the standard rubber lines on, and T-bone the fucker !!!!!!!!

cheers

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