Improve z750 brakes

[fabrice]

Is there any way to improve the brakes on the z750 the twin piston setup is crap. I have braided lines on. Would using a better brake pad make any difference? If so does anyone have an idea of the proffered pad?

I was thinking of changing the calipers to four pot ones from a wreaker, if its cost affective, does anyone know of what can fit on the z750.

[SNR]

Couple of things first:
What are you comparing the braking force/feel too.
Have you ridden a bike with better brakes compared to the Z, and which bike!
Do you use the Z reguarly on trackdays.
Remember it's a Z750 not a ZX10

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[fabrice]

Track days, at the moment is the only thing I have been using it for, I will be on my tenth one at the end of this month.
I would love to upgrade but don’t have the finances.
I have to admit I have ridden a Honda CBR 600 with radial brakes and they were great. The last two bikes I owned had Brembos.
I can’t really compare them to some other bike. I was just hopping for more power and at a cost affective way of getting it.
By the sounds of it I cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
Who needs brakes anyway their for wooses.

[SNR]

Maybe fit the forks with the radial brakes that are out on the new Z's (depending if you have the 'normal' caliper setup). The front forks should fit through the triple clamps! But to pickup a pair with calipers $$$$$$$...........you'd proberly better off buying new AP's or Brembo's calpers if they make them for the Z and the money tree is flowering.

Try a set of race pads ($90 to $140 a pair) that you only fit during track days is the way to go and a cheaper alternate. In the long long run it will shorten your disk life because of the sintered compound in them.

Either way man it means money

Just me thoughts on a pondering troublsom solution that has many answers!

snr


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[hoffy]

been there done that.
race pads dont last long, I chewed a set in less than 2000k's.

Its not how big they are it's how you use it!

[SNR]

Very true! Personaly theres 2 things I don't go cheap on, brakes and tyres. Simply cause I can afford'em and I like living on this god forsaken planet.

Ok lets work this out based on a 4km track. 5 sessions in the day and you cover the track in 1min 50sec - 20min sessions. 50 to 55km a session. 275km a trackday roughly.

You would then get just over 7 trackdays in before replacing the pads. Not bad if you ask me for paying only $100!

been there done that.
race pads dont last long, I chewed a set in less than 2000k's.

Its not how big they are it's how you use it!

But think this, would you put Shinko's on your bike or Pilot Powers...........for a trackday!

Me, I'd get the real deal. Little bit like would you like to fly first class sir or sit down the back with the others.

cheers
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[hoffy]

2000k's on road normal use. but you may get 1200k's at the track.
stiffening up the front end "suspenders" can go a long way to improving braking also.
Hows the front end?

[fabrice]

I had the suspension done up by K Tek and it did help the braking a little.

[SNR]

Are you sure it's not 20,000km road use! I think there's something wrong with your brakes if you go through pads in 2000km. I do't think anyone would see that usage!

2000k's on road normal use. but you may get 1200k's at the track.
stiffening up the front end "suspenders" can go a long way to improving braking also.
Hows the front end?

Dosn't seem right................."normal road use" Have a set in the blade that lasted 30,000km with trackdays at ECx1 PIx3 IRx1 thrown in for good meaqsure. Have just changed em for a PI trackday for a friend about 4 weeks ago!

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[hoffy]

yeah. I had the bendix race pads, they looked a copper colour and were incredibly stoppy. like endo stoppy.

I was blown away at how quickly they wore out! I took the bike back to the shop where i bought em at 1,600 k's when they had nearly gone, and said "this aint right", and they laughed at me and said, "well you asked for race pads"