new licencing

[philbo]

Sorry if this is a repost if so delete
Getting a motorcycle rider licence


On 11 March 2009, Premier Nathan Rees announced the introduction of a new licensing scheme for motorcycle riders to help reduce the number of beginner riders involved in crashes.
Mr Rees said that young and inexperienced riders are significantly over-represented in crashes.
“Motorcyclists aged under 20 are almost five times more likely to crash than other motorbike riders,” Mr Rees said.
“Last year, around 350 beginner riders were involved in crashes across the State.
“That’s why we are introducing this scheme which will be similar to a motor vehicle licence extending the minimum provisional period for motorcycle riders from one to three years.”
Mr Rees said that the changes will be introduced in June and mean that riders will stay on a provisional licence for a minimum of three years with the same P1 and P2 phases as car drivers.
“Provisional rider restrictions will now be in place for a longer period giving riders time to gain confidence and experience on the road.
“The restrictions for P1 drivers are a zero blood alcohol limit, a maximum speed restriction of 90km/h and a loss of licence for incurring four or more demerit points.
“For P2 drivers it also means a zero blood alcohol limit, a maximum 100km/h speed limit and a licence suspension for their second speeding offence.
“This is about saving lives and reducing the number of people injured on our roads by ensuring riders gain more experience.”
Roads Minister Michael Daley said that currently riders must hold a learner licence for a minimum of three months before attending a pre-provisional course.
“They must then be on a P1 provisional licence for a minimum of 12 months before applying for a full licence,” Mr Daley said.
“The minimum three year period on a provisional licence will raise the age for getting an unrestricted rider licence from 18 to 20.
“The provisional P1 phase will be a requirement of all riders, regardless of age but there will be an exemption from the P2 phase for riders over 25 who also hold an unrestricted car driver licence.
“This exemption recognises car driving experience and brings NSW in line with other States.”

[Glen]

I just read this in todays paper.

It's an absolute joke. The reason riders were never subjected to this was because the rider training scheme exists and it has done a bloody good job in reducing accidents amongst newbies. What I would love to see is a scheme where new drivers were forced to do some compulsory training prior to getting their licence.

The 350 accident statistic is bullshit as it includes every little bingle and lets face it learners have accidents. His statement that "it is about saving lives"?????? How many Provisional riders are killed in NSW each year? Typically it's less than 5. It's about cheap vote scoring and being seen to be doing something while you're actually doing nothing.....

[Six Addict]

i agree glen!!!

[red_dave]

At least now a LAMS bike might be worth the investment...

[Six Addict]

At least now a LAMS bike might be worth the investment...

a very good point dave... we might start encouraging newbs to invest in their bikes... given they gonna have em for 3 years.... thank fuck i got mine when i did!!!

[tim]

You know the other thing it's it's gonna mean...... more "How do I make my 250 go faster?" requests if that 250's gonna have to make another year or 2 now

Small business opportunity: whatever can be done to Kawa250s someone can make some dollars marketing that stuff to forum members............ if that kinda thing is allowed.

[fadz90]

i got my red p'z last month, does that mean i can still get my full license next year this time, or do i have to get my green p'z too, if this law hits me i will be spewin...

[Six Addict]

you're fine mate... its never retrospective...

if u do your Ls test before the new date, then you'll get in under the current scheme...

so 11 months and you're on your full licence mate

[binther]

“The restrictions for P1 drivers are a zero blood alcohol limit, a maximum speed restriction of 90km/h and a loss of licence for incurring four or more demerit points.

yes cause doing 90km/h on the highway is going to improve your odds of being run over by a truck... morons

[fadz90]

im glad to hear lol i still think either way, your controling the motorbike, so theres either 2 ways of a accident, poor road craft and riding or some blind driver wiping you out, either way you can still kill yourself on a 250 or a bigger bike..

2 words come to mind to me REVENUE RAISNG!!

oh well tough go for anyone getting thier licence after june

[zx6rider]

“The restrictions for P1 drivers are a zero blood alcohol limit, a maximum speed restriction of 90km/h and a loss of licence for incurring four or more demerit points.

yes cause doing 90km/h on the highway is going to improve your odds of being run over by a truck... morons

I could never understand this law, why would you make certain vehicles travel at different speeds on the same road? your just asking for trouble!

You might be a bit safer by travelling slower and being able to react to traffic quicker by being able to stop sooner, but its going to create alot of agro amongst all of the other "experienced" drivers who are trying to get past you whilst you are driving at 90kmh!!!

Maybe someone should put this political moron on a 250 and let him do 90kmh on the freeway and see how safe it really is!!!

[philbo]

i got my red p'z last month, does that mean i can still get my full license next year this time, or do i have to get my green p'z too, if this law hits me i will be spewin...

i'm in same situation as you fadz hope your right six addict as much as i love my 250 i couldnt stand being on it for 3 years. Its amazing how most accidents arent caused by riders more the twit who cuts them off on the road or hits them.
ohh btw way tim i'm already trying to get mine to go quicker

[fadz90]

i followed it up, all those on thier p'z currently, it dosen't apply to them, so its who ever gets thier p'z after it they are going to have to abide by this new ** ghey ** law lol

next thing you know... they might give us a curfew! hahahaha

[chicken_strangler]

At least now a LAMS bike might be worth the investment...

a very good point dave... we might start encouraging newbs to invest in their bikes... given they gonna have em for 3 years.... thank fuck i got mine when i did!!!

so this could justify buying a currunt model zx2r

[philbo]

i followed it up, all those on thier p'z currently, it dosen't apply to them, so its who ever gets thier p'z after it they are going to have to abide by this new ** ghey ** law lol

next thing you know... they might give us a curfew! hahahaha

ahh sweet as good work fadz howd you find out??? and how are your mates doin from the other week ?