WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

For general Technical and Performance Discussions
deafwish
KSRC Member
KSRC Member
Posts: 400
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:50 pm
Location: Melbourne - S.E.

WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by deafwish »

My rear Pilot Power has had a small crease looking line (can feel the indentation with your finger-nail) for the past 3000km.
Originally I thought that I had spun my tyre up on a sharp stone but it has stayed that way for a while now & it isn't a straight line (confirms it wasn't caused by wheelspin).
I haven't cared much about it (my rear tyres don't last that long anyway) until I recently noticed the front has done the same!
I sent an online message to Michelin Australia, over 3 weeks ago & haven't heard squat from them... :x

Rear - The crease is on the right (1 o'clock):
Image

Front - The crease is on the left (11 o'clock):
Image

Does anyone know what has happened or anyone who works for Michelin in Melbourne?
I am seriously considering going back to Bridgestone, as this is the first set of Michelin's I've had & my rear is needing to be replaced pretty soon... :(
Oh & they are not the Spanish made ones that were recalled some months back. ;)

Daz.
Muzzy Ti 4 into 1, Power Commander III USB, K&N, Airbox mod, KLEEN delete, Throttle quickener, Vortex -1 front sprocket, Renthal Ultra Low 'bars, Seat cowl, Ohlins 0.95kg fork springs, ZX6R shock. 130hp/ 70ft/lbs!
User avatar
MickLC
Team Crim
Posts: 5429
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Bike: Z1000
State: ACT

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by MickLC »

I've seen that on Power's before, and I think on some other brands too. Not sure what causes it though...
'13 Z1000, '76 Z650+,'91 KLR250, '95 ZX6R Racebike
User avatar
Steve_TLS
KSRC Member
KSRC Member
Posts: 328
Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:10 pm
Bike: Scooter
State: Victoria
Location: Bacchus Marsh, Vic
Contact:

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by Steve_TLS »

From another board. Brand new Triumph, month old, less than 1600km, apparently no burnouts or abuse and Michelin (USA) said FU.

(This one was made in Spain)
Image
Steve
"I spent most of my money on Scotch, women and cigarettes. The rest I just wasted"
-My TLS pages- -My GSXR pages- -My Blog-
User avatar
ttc
Team Black
Posts: 2893
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:59 pm
Bike: Z1000
State: Queensland
Location: Brisbane

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by ttc »

deafwish, there's nothing wrong with your tyre.
It's an anti static strip that michelin build into the tyre, I asked the Michelin rep about it when i worked at the bike shop.

So don't worry about it :D
Image
User avatar
MickLC
Team Crim
Posts: 5429
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Bike: Z1000
State: ACT

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by MickLC »

ttc wrote:...It's an anti static strip that michelin build into the tyre, I asked the Michelin rep about it when i worked at the bike shop....

To discharge the Flux Capacitor?
'13 Z1000, '76 Z650+,'91 KLR250, '95 ZX6R Racebike
User avatar
Strika
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 8373
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:02 am
Bike: Yamaha
State: Victoria
Location: Melbourne

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by Strika »

I have a Pilot Road 2 on the rear of the Beemer (and just fitted one to the 9 also) and it has the exact same thing on it. I have also seen them on other bikes with powers. It appears not to effect anything in terms of grip, handling or tyre life! 8)
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me" Hunter S. Thompson.
There are really only two questions in life. 1.Which way do i go? 2.What is the lap record?
hoffy
Team Barge
Team Barge
Posts: 8744
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:59 am
Bike: Z1000
State: New South Wales

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by hoffy »

Same on mine, although my crease is a little straighter..no dramas.
User avatar
Wattie
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 10041
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:23 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales
Location: Bligh Park

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by Wattie »

i got em too, i thought it was just like a join in the mould...

but anti static strip is now is!! 8)
Wattie #55
ZX10R "The Crim"
ZX10R "Gumby"
Proudly Supported by Allfixed Automotive 9634 1455
sam & srt, survived
RGM, left a message
User avatar
Slow and wobbly
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
Posts: 1541
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:51 am
Bike: Scooter
State: Victoria
Location: Melbourne

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by Slow and wobbly »

Mick C wrote:
ttc wrote:...It's an anti static strip that michelin build into the tyre, I asked the Michelin rep about it when i worked at the bike shop....

To discharge the Flux Capacitor?
Mick you are so on to it - with out this the static build up within the Flux capacitor would negatively effect the polarizer and definitely cause major problems. I am glad to see the tyre manufacturers have finally recognized this and catered for this discrepency so often found on Ducati's - commonly reffered to as electrical faults - but we know better don't we ;)
I got a sweater for my birthday. I realy wanted a moaner or a screamer.
Image
User avatar
swabio-ACT
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
Posts: 1635
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:52 pm
Bike: ZRX
State: Queensland
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Contact:

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by swabio-ACT »

Do you think that this crease or the 'ASS' as it is now known.... have any adverse effects on the performance gained from tank foam?
Image
User avatar
IsleofNinja
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
Posts: 1021
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:08 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: Western Australia
Location: That tiny black dot in the distance.......

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by IsleofNinja »

Don't have this problem with my Diablo corsa's 8)

Put the Corsa 3 on the rear today .. Was a little concerned with the original D.C tearing up but didn't get any worse from when I first noticed to nude..Still gripped well just didn't last long .. Bout $45 dearer than a p/power but after looking at the USA Trumpy pic above..worth every cent.(anti static strip???????)

D C Steerer still fine..

any sponsership welcome Pirelli Aust...hint,hint LOL :P
06 ZX10r , 95 ZX9r
97 GSF1200 project streetfighter
07 FXST

EXPERIENCE:ex_spear_ee_anse :noun: Knowledge or skill derived from actual participation or direct contact rather than mere study, interest or internet.
User avatar
Wattie
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 10041
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:23 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales
Location: Bligh Park

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by Wattie »

IsleofNinja wrote:Don't have this problem with my Diablo corsa's 8)

Put the Corsa 3 on the rear today .. Was a little concerned with the original D.C tearing up but didn't get any worse from when I first noticed to nude..Still gripped well just didn't last long .. Bout $45 dearer than a p/power but after looking at the USA Trumpy pic above..worth every cent.(anti static strip???????)

D C Steerer still fine..

any sponsership welcome Pirelli Aust...hint,hint LOL :P
Soundguy stuck some diablo's on his 10, and it the track day at EC, you could see 2 distinct lines up each side similar to the pilot power lines.

seemed to be where the compound changes. when tyre was clean and nicely scrubbed it was quite noticable to the eye.

as with the PP, i dont think it causes and probs. that trumpy pic probly got a bad tyre, or a puncture.
Wattie #55
ZX10R "The Crim"
ZX10R "Gumby"
Proudly Supported by Allfixed Automotive 9634 1455
sam & srt, survived
RGM, left a message
User avatar
Strika
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
Posts: 8373
Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:02 am
Bike: Yamaha
State: Victoria
Location: Melbourne

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by Strika »

Wattie wrote:
IsleofNinja wrote:Don't have this problem with my Diablo corsa's 8)

Put the Corsa 3 on the rear today .. Was a little concerned with the original D.C tearing up but didn't get any worse from when I first noticed to nude..Still gripped well just didn't last long .. Bout $45 dearer than a p/power but after looking at the USA Trumpy pic above..worth every cent.(anti static strip???????)

D C Steerer still fine..

any sponsership welcome Pirelli Aust...hint,hint LOL :P
Soundguy stuck some diablo's on his 10, and it the track day at EC, you could see 2 distinct lines up each side similar to the pilot power lines.

seemed to be where the compound changes. when tyre was clean and nicely scrubbed it was quite noticable to the eye.

as with the PP, i dont think it causes and probs. that trumpy pic probly got a bad tyre, or a puncture.


What do you mean Mr. Michelin that you won't warrant my rear tyre????
Mr. Rider, were you aware, that running your pilot powers at 10psi for 20 mins at 260 kph can compromise it's integrity???
What do you mean by integrity Mr. Michelin????

:lol: :lol:

Like load of people we see at the local haunts, a lot forget that tyres actually need air in them!!!! :lol:

I remember a mate complaining about his new R1 handling like shit! I checked the tyre pressures and found 12 in the front and 16 in the rear!!!!!!! :shock:
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me" Hunter S. Thompson.
There are really only two questions in life. 1.Which way do i go? 2.What is the lap record?
User avatar
MickLC
Team Crim
Posts: 5429
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Bike: Z1000
State: ACT

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by MickLC »

Too true, and I've found the old dungers inner tube tyres need checking a lot more often than modern ones do too. I'd been a bit slack lately and had noticed it was moving around a lot....18 psi was a good reason for that :oops:
'13 Z1000, '76 Z650+,'91 KLR250, '95 ZX6R Racebike
User avatar
SoundGuy
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
Posts: 1719
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:22 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales
Location: Sydney

Re: WTF has happened to my Pilot Power's?

Post by SoundGuy »

IsleofNinja wrote:Don't have this problem with my Diablo corsa's 8)

Put the Corsa 3 on the rear today .. Was a little concerned with the original D.C tearing up but didn't get any worse from when I first noticed to nude..Still gripped well just didn't last long .. Bout $45 dearer than a p/power but after looking at the USA Trumpy pic above..worth every cent.(anti static strip???????)

D C Steerer still fine..

any sponsership welcome Pirelli Aust...hint,hint LOL :P
Corsa 3 rear, is a good tire.... so far :)

I've done 3 track days on it and lots riding and its holding up pretty well.

8)
Post Reply