....Lose ya licence in a Toyota

Smitty · Post by **Smitty** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:40 pm

its a 1980 Toyota f'gawdsake

'Hoon', 43, loses car forever
April 4, 2007 - 7:40AM The Age

A Victorian man has become the first driver to permanently lose his car under the state's anti-hoon laws.

In a hearing at the Castlemaine Magistrates Court yesterday, Terrence Lord, from the central Victorian town of Drummond, was ordered to forfeit his blue 1980 Toyota Corona fastback.

Lord, 43, pleaded guilty to four counts of driving while disqualified between January 23 and February 14 this year.

Under laws introduced in July last year, drivers caught drag racing, doing burnouts or committing other "hoon" acts such as reckless speeding and driving while disqualified, can have their cars impounded for 48 hours for a first offence.

They face a three-month impound order for a second offence and the permanent confiscation of their car for a third offence.

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the hoon and his 25 yo Toyota

mike-s · Post by **mike-s** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:36 pm

absolute NUMPTY

zzzak · Post by **zzzak** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:57 pm

Not so fast to condemn here please as there may be more to this than meets the eye.

Now if they have the same draconian points laws in Vic as we have in NSW then this guy may have lost his licence for being 10k over on four occasions within a three year period and he may have needed too drive given that he lives in Drummond (wherever that is) so what is he to do?

I 'heard' of a tradesman who had to drive for three years after a savaging in a local court where the only other offence against the guy was from 1973 which led to a "You'll not learn" type speech from the bench and the subsequent stiff penalty so think that he probably has no public transport available and needs to get to work to feed his family or even just himself,transport is a necessity after all.

I'd also point out that he may have been driving un-licenced but he wasn't drunk as well and the car wasn't mentioned as being unregistered either so it could be a valid,essential to survival thing,just saying.

Now if you were aware that your actions could result in the total loss of your vehicle would you take the 12?

Thought not.

mike-s · Post by **mike-s** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:10 pm

well then, make that "absolute NUMPTY for getting caught". Seriously though, there's almost always ways around things like this, if your a delivery driver, try and cop a stint working in the warehouse while your suspension rolls on. If you a tradie working with an apprentice, get the probie with his P's license to do the driving to/from the jobs.

Or like me if you only drive for the convenience, HTFU and take the bus :-\.

zzzak · Post by **zzzak** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:35 pm

It can't be much fun to be on automatic probation for three years for being ten over.

mike-s · Post by **mike-s** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:34 pm

zzzak wrote:It can't be much fun to be on automatic probation for three years for being ten over.

Where's it say that?

oh and

zzzak wrote:Now if they have the same draconian points laws in Vic as we have in NSW then this guy may have lost his licence for being 10k over on four occasions within a three year period and he may have needed too drive given that he lives in Drummond (wherever that is) so what is he to do?

pretty much describes permanent probation for everyone.

zzzak · Post by **zzzak** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:52 pm

police state

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:32 pm

hahaha

so if u get caught and ur gunna lose ur car, sell it and buy a $400 corrolla and they can HAVE it...lol

zzzak · Post by **zzzak** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:42 pm

Neka79 wrote:hahaha

so if u get caught and ur gunna lose ur car, sell it and buy a $400 corrolla and they can HAVE it...lol

The smart money's on that choice.

Slow and wobbly · Post by **Slow and wobbly** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:08 pm

These new hoon laws are a summons type offence where the court / issuing officer generaly places an order stating that the vehicle in which the offence is committed must not be sold prior to the court hearing. Or sumfink like that.

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:48 pm

Slow and wobbly wrote:These new hoon laws are a summons type offence where the court / issuing officer generaly places an order stating that the vehicle in which the offence is committed must not be sold prior to the court hearing. Or sumfink like that.

hmmm u try and stop me!!

id sell it for nothing b4 i let em take it off me...

I-K · Post by **I-K** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:31 pm

Slow and wobbly wrote:These new hoon laws are a summons type offence where the court / issuing officer generaly places an order stating that the vehicle in which the offence is committed must not be sold prior to the court hearing.

So you lie and backdate the sale to a date before you received the summons. If there's something in the statute about the proceeds of the sale being forfeit, "Sorry. I pissed it up the wall down the pub and the knocking shop next door that very night."

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:15 pm

I-K wrote:
Slow and wobbly wrote:These new hoon laws are a summons type offence where the court / issuing officer generaly places an order stating that the vehicle in which the offence is committed must not be sold prior to the court hearing.
So you lie and backdate the sale to a date before you received the summons. If there's something in the statute about the proceeds of the sale being forfeit, "Sorry. I pissed it up the wall down the pub and the knocking shop next door that very night."

u obviously think like me ...

i had a mate whos ex wife was trying to get his brand new (then- 99ish) WRX in the settlement... he "sold it to a mate" for $500...went to the pub and got shitfaced..and kept reciepts (dinner, takeaways ) and got staff to witness him feed $$ into a pokie and drink copious amounts...got thrown out, had the cops question him and all...and it was ALL recorded...lol