Need advice

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:52 am

So the Suzuki regulator rectifyer is fine, in fact the whole charging system (each piece indivudualy) is fine....

So Suzuki say it is the wiring...... and recommend I take it to an Auto Electrician.....

At a guess the first thing an auto electrician is going to say "take all the fairings off and bring it back".... Will that happen?

Barrabob · Post by **Barrabob** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:08 pm

Well the auto electrician should have a device that tells them if it is drawing power when all the electrics are turned off so they know if theres a short in the somewhere then they chase it down and fix it.

Mr Sparkle · Post by **Mr Sparkle** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:46 pm

What was the initial issue if you don't mind me asking ?

There are a few tests you can do at home with a Mulitmeter to determine where the fault resides.

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:46 pm

Dont know why suzuki cant fix this themselves..... You would think a mechanic would be taught how to locate electrical faults...

javaman · Post by **javaman** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:44 pm

Do a serial connection using a lightbulb between positive terminal and body. With power off, see if it lights up. If it does then unplug the fuses one by one to determine the faulty section.

How did you establish that the charging system is okay ?

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:14 pm

javaman wrote:Do a serial connection using a lightbulb between positive terminal and body. With power off, see if it lights up. If it does then unplug the fuses one by one to determine the faulty section.

How did you establish that the charging system is okay ?

thats what suzuki told me.........

mrmina · Post by **mrmina** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:52 pm

mate electrical faults can be very hard to figure.... well not hard but costly.

its basicly (sometimes, when u dont know what it is) trial and error.

it can take a minute or a week (no jokes)

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:06 pm

Stereo wrote:
javaman wrote:Do a serial connection using a lightbulb between positive terminal and body. With power off, see if it lights up. If it does then unplug the fuses one by one to determine the faulty section.

How did you establish that the charging system is okay ?
thats what suzuki told me.........

Stereo, if you want to, I think I still have a little doovalacky with some wires and a bulb in it somewhere in my tool box. So pop over with it on Sat AM and we can have a look see for until we either find it, or get bored!

I am not brilliant with electrics, but I reckon using a bit of common sense, and Andi's fine instructions we might be able to figure it out! If not, we'll leave the bodywork off it for the elect to look at!

mrmina · Post by **mrmina** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:20 pm

strika, it might be handy to use a multi meter instead of the bulb pen.

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:27 pm

mrmina wrote:strika, it might be handy to use a multi meter instead of the bulb pen.

As I don't own one, then it will have to suffice. One would assume we are looking for a leakage, not the amps or voltage! So I reckon it should do the job

Minorci · Post by **Minorci** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:31 pm

Isn't there those fluke multimeters that you dont even need to strip the wire? Where you just clip it around the wire and it detects current?

balanse · Post by **balanse** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:54 pm

Wiring diagram and a multimeter is what you need to do it properly.

What's it doing wrong?

javaman · Post by **javaman** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:12 pm

Stereo wrote:
javaman wrote:Do a serial connection using a lightbulb between positive terminal and body. With power off, see if it lights up. If it does then unplug the fuses one by one to determine the faulty section.

How did you establish that the charging system is okay ?
thats what suzuki told me.........

Then it's better to have a look for yourself. Quite simple actually:

1. What is the output of battery charging on the battery itself (should be aroung 13.8v when revved

2. Check the alternator output - should be 40-50v (AC) when revved midrange

3. Check the rectifier (diode) which converts AC to DC..

Benno · Post by **Benno** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:19 pm

Strika wrote:
Stereo wrote:
javaman wrote:Do a serial connection using a lightbulb between positive terminal and body. With power off, see if it lights up. If it does then unplug the fuses one by one to determine the faulty section.

How did you establish that the charging system is okay ?
thats what suzuki told me.........
Stereo, if you want to, I think I still have a little doovalacky with some wires and a bulb in it somewhere in my tool box. So pop over with it on Sat AM and we can have a look see for until we either find it, or get bored! I am not brilliant with electrics, but I reckon using a bit of common sense, and Andi's fine instructions we might be able to figure it out! If not, we'll leave the bodywork off it for the elect to look at!

Being an electrician, I have a fairly good understanding of the stuff! If you want a hand on Sat morning, you have my number mate, give us a yell and I'll pop over to Marty's and stick my nose in there for you!

I have a few multimeter's that we can use. Just let me know.

RG · Post by RG » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:08 pm

Benno wrote:Being an electrician, I have a fairly good understanding of the stuff! If you want a hand on Sat morning, you have my number mate, give us a yell and I'll pop over to Marty's and stick my nose in there for you!

I have a few multimeter's that we can use. Just let me know.

and you charge $60/hr...

just kidding, most sparkies charge about $70/hr.