Fuel Tax Drop

Saki · Post by **Saki** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:38 am

Watching the news yesturday i saw the story a few times..

I am not 100% on all the facts. But they where talking about droppin the 38c tax off the price of fuel.. which would drop it to around $1.10.

What are your thoughts!

Johnnie5 · Post by **Johnnie5** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:06 am

forget it , it just will not happen

they might drop it a little bit but there is no way in hell the gov is just going to knock off 38c tax per litre

more likely they will drop a few cents and then jack up cigs and grog tax to cover it

there is just way too much income to the gov from taxs such as these

mick_dundee · Post by **mick_dundee** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:22 am

Enough with the price of petrol already, yeah it's not as cheap as it used to be but it's still shitloads cheaper than most other countries and for the motorbike rally if they drop it 5 cents a litre say you'll save $1 everytime you fill up give or take a bit, is that really going to make such a massive difference?

chuffed · Post by **chuffed** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:56 am

Johnnie5 wrote:forget it , it just will not happen

they might drop it a little bit but there is no way in hell the gov is just going to knock off 38c tax per litre

more likely they will drop a few cents and then jack up cigs and grog tax to cover it

Saw this morning on the news that beer/wine and spirits tax will be increased.....

Johnnie5 · Post by **Johnnie5** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:02 am

chuffed wrote:
Johnnie5 wrote:forget it , it just will not happen

they might drop it a little bit but there is no way in hell the gov is just going to knock off 38c tax per litre

more likely they will drop a few cents and then jack up cigs and grog tax to cover it
Saw this morning on the news that beer/wine and spirits tax will be increased.....

well it does go up every 6-12 months anyway

but exactly that , if the gov drops some money on fuel then its gotta come from somewhere to balance it all out and grog/cigs are the usual one

hidepenny · Post by **hidepenny** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:35 am

but exactly that , if the gov drops some money on fuel then its gotta come from somewhere to balance it all out and grog/cigs are the usual one

are they trying to encourage ppl to get off from smoking and drinking?
so only the non-smokers and non-drinkers benefit from it?

Johnnie5 · Post by **Johnnie5** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:45 am

hidepenny wrote:
but exactly that , if the gov drops some money on fuel then its gotta come from somewhere to balance it all out and grog/cigs are the usual one
are they trying to encourage ppl to get off from smoking and drinking?
so only the non-smokers and non-drinkers benefit from it?

would anyone like to take a guess what is going to happen when

there is no smoking everywhere

when the tax on cigs goes up enough that enough people stop smoking as they cant afford it anymore

where is the gov gonna get money from ?
my guess a part of it is going to come from motorvehicles in 1 way or another

Colette · Post by **Colette** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:37 pm

As much as I'd love to believe it will happen, past experience tells me that prices always go up, but they never drop them back down

mike-s · Post by **mike-s** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:19 pm

Precisely, somehow the 78c/litre days are long gone.

Hell i remember when my parents were ghastly shocked that petrol bumped up over 70c/litre. I'm sure ponti & ron remember when it was tuppence/gallon

mick_dundee · Post by **mick_dundee** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:08 pm

Johnnie5 wrote:when the tax on cigs goes up enough that enough people stop smoking as they cant afford it anymore

Every federal budget you can back Johnny Howards left nut that smokes and booze taxes will increase, EVERY year, it's not odds on it's unbackable, deal with it

As for the tax they raise on cogs, sure they get shitloads but I would honestrly like to see it compared with the costs associated with smoking by a non aligned org of some sorts. The health costs, the cost to the encvironment, the cost of emplying peopkle to pick up cigarette butts etc, dunno if it can be quantified but would make for bloody interesting comparisons I reckon.

mohawk miss · Post by **mohawk miss** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:23 pm

My beef with fuel prices is the fact that the GST was not supposed to apply to goods with another tax component in the price.
So now I have to pay a gst on the excise portion of my fuel cost. This is a joke.

Miserable sods

SenNey · Post by **SenNey** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:40 pm

The tax on fuel is rediculous.
People need fuel to get to and from work, errands, groceries etc.
Public transport can be used at times, but it's not always convient for all.
Nor is it clean, run on time or cheap.

But drinking and smoking people choose to do.

A friend of ours always complains he is broke, yet can buy his two slabs of beer and carton of smokes a week!

Signed a non drinker or smoker.

mrmina · Post by **mrmina** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:52 pm

well fuel is taxed pretty heavily. It has both local and federal tax slapped onto it.

It can reach a low, but the government will need to get the money from else where. Maybe income taxes or rates or something.

Just like newtons law:

"where there is an action, there is an equal and opposing reaction"

If they give u money back on petrol, they'll get it else where

mick_dundee · Post by **mick_dundee** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:38 pm

mrmina wrote:Just like newtons law:

"where there is an action, there is an equal and opposing reaction"

If they give u money back on petrol, they'll get it else where

Far canal Mina that's a bit deep for you isn't it? Who's stolen your computer??

mick_dundee · Post by **mick_dundee** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:41 pm

mohawk miss wrote:My beef with fuel prices is the fact that the GST was not supposed to apply to goods with another tax component in the price.
So now I have to pay a gst on the excise portion of my fuel cost. This is a joke.

Miserable sods

I'd be happy to stand correced but I am reasonmably sure we pay GST on Stamp Duty in our car/bike rego too, quite possibly on housing too...