WHAT REALLY IS THE BIGGEST THREAT TO SOCIETY?

[seiko1]

We used to buy crackers at the local mikbar and guns at K-Mart
If a kid sprayed your house you would give him a good hiding and not a word would be said about it
Boy's have been doing random burnouts ever since cars were made powerful enough for this to be done
NONE OF THIS IS NEW BEHAVIOUR only the approach to it has been changed and the more the extremely soft, none
masculine pollies push...............the more the youngies push back
The libs are now spruking an even tougher aproach to "Hoons" , they want to crush cars and also impound cars for 30 days on a first offence That would really make it worth RUNNING and I certainly would if that were the over the top punishment

[Glen]

Most of that happened though when you're local cop would grab you when he caught you, give you a clip up the side of the head and take you home to your old man who'd do the same. Then the bleeding hearts came along said oh no mister cop you can't do that to our poor little children and now you get what you've got because the cops are powerless.

A law that says when you see a bunch of criminals hanging around together you can go and do something about it makes perfect sense I reckon

[rooster]

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They are out there waiting to pounce

[Glen]

Now I really should stop posting to this thread because it's just giving the subject more airtime, but this crap is being posted on forums all over the joint, even Rugby League forums (because they're all criminal organisations). Interestingly it seems to be the same people popping up as well

[clay]

You really think the majority of amp comes from motorcycle clubs?

I think that's a misguided assumption.

Don't get me wrong, I have a pretty intense dislike for ice, speed, pills, and coke and heroin, weed, all drugs really, not even the biggest fan of alcohol most of the time. But to blame the manufacture/importation and sale of these drugs on motorcycle clubs isn't quite right to me.

And how many 1%ers would make up the members in most motorcycle clubs, do you think anyway?

That's not what I said, try reading again. What I said was that the major income source for most of the gangs is manufacturing and selling the shit.

Yep, get your point.

That's what I get for scanning posts.

Don't know about it being a major source of the clubs income, perhaps those individuals who partake in such activities, yes.

Every single member pays a certain amount of money each week which goes to maintaining the clubs assets and resources, such as clubhouses, etc. Some members even pay large amounts of money just for membership. I'm sure, depending on the member base, but some MCC have lots of members, that there is a fair bit of money generated legally.

[tim]

Must....resist....attacking...........................Tim's ....a ....nice...guy

[clay]

How many of you, who aren't members of a motorcycle club, have been adversely affected by a motorcycle club, or a member of one? Or even know someone who has?

A lot of MCC bashing, so I'm just keen to hear your story.

You're kidding aren't you, where the fuck have you been for the last twelve months. I have one of the pieces of shit living in our suburb and the gutless arse sits in his house with steel plates plastered all over the front of it while his neighbours have to worry about dickheads driving past shooting up the neighbourhood.

Bike gangs have become shit, half the dicks don't even ride bikes anymore, they are nothing more than fronts for various criminal activities and our society should support anything that goes towards shutting them down.

No, not kidding, I'm genuinely curious.

So you've got a member of a MCC living in your suburb? Has your neighbours home been shot up? Know anyone who's been assaulted by a MCC member? Or just been robbed by one or something incidental even? A run in at the pub?

I hear a lot of member on member incidents, but haven't heard of random attacks on people who are not affiliated with a MCC, ie the general public.

Granted, criminals may endeavour to join a MCC for whatever reason, and some perhaps do, but a MCC is still a 'Motorcycle Club'. Just because one relatively new club, Notorious, has recently surfaced, started by the former Parramatta chapter President of the Nomads MCC, and they've recruited a bunch of people who don't ride bikes, doesn't mean all MCC's are criminal organisations made up of people who don't even ride bikes anymore.

It's a huge generalisation, like another debate around here, if I want to say ALL cops are fcuked because of my experience with a few, I would face disagreement from others. But in this instance, I am assuming that those of you criticising MCC's, have not even had any personal contact with a member. Let alone been adversely affected by one. So I am curious as to who has, and what happened to cause such opinions.

[robracer]

So you've got a member of a MCC living in your suburb? Has your neighbours home been shot up? Know anyone who's been assaulted by a MCC member?

Yes Clay even I do
December 08, 2008
Drive-by shootings reported in Carlingford, Blacktown, Kings Langley and Seven Hills
Early this morning two more drive-by shootings happened, just moments apart.
At about 1.20am, several shots were fired into a house on Collett Crescent, Kings Langley.
There were six occupants inside the house at the time and while several shots were fired into the house, nobody was injured.
Just after 1.30am, several shots were also fired into a house and car in Yvonne Street, Seven Hills.
Four occupants were inside the house sleeping at the time, but again nobody was injured.

[Glen]

So you've got a member of a MCC living in your suburb? Has your neighbours home been shot up? Know anyone who's been assaulted by a MCC member? Or just been robbed by one or something incidental even? A run in at the pub?

Sooooo the dick sits in the middle of the road in his car talking on his mobile, blocking the road. Local kid waits for a bit then gives said dick a toot on the horn. Dick and mates get out of car and beat the shit out of the kids car.

Mates kids pushy gets pinched by another gang dickheads kid. Mate goes to get it back, Gang dickhead rocks up at the door with a gun..........

Has my neighbours home been shot up? No not yet but would you like your kids playing in a street where you've got that next door.

Oh and neither of the gangs above are "Notorious". They are both supposedly legitimate Motorcycle clubs

[clay]

So you've got a member of a MCC living in your suburb? Has your neighbours home been shot up? Know anyone who's been assaulted by a MCC member?

Yes Clay even I do
December 08, 2008
Drive-by shootings reported in Carlingford, Blacktown, Kings Langley and Seven Hills
Early this morning two more drive-by shootings happened, just moments apart.
At about 1.20am, several shots were fired into a house on Collett Crescent, Kings Langley.
There were six occupants inside the house at the time and while several shots were fired into the house, nobody was injured.
Just after 1.30am, several shots were also fired into a house and car in Yvonne Street, Seven Hills.
Four occupants were inside the house sleeping at the time, but again nobody was injured.

You know the people personally?

And were they affiliated with a MCC themselves, or innocent bystanders?

Just trying to differentiate between what personal involvement people have had with MCC's and their destructive behaviour, and what people read in the paper and hear on the news.

[clay]

So you've got a member of a MCC living in your suburb? Has your neighbours home been shot up? Know anyone who's been assaulted by a MCC member? Or just been robbed by one or something incidental even? A run in at the pub?

Sooooo the dick sits in the middle of the road in his car talking on his mobile, blocking the road. Local kid waits for a bit then gives said dick a toot on the horn. Dick and mates get out of car and beat the shit out of the kids car.

Mates kids pushy gets pinched by another gang dickheads kid. Mate goes to get it back, Gang dickhead rocks up at the door with a gun..........

Has my neighbours home been shot up? No not yet but would you like your kids playing in a street where you've got that next door.

Oh and neither of the gangs above are "Notorious". They are both supposedly legitimate Motorcycle clubs

Tragic, road rage incidents occur everyday, not all are members of a MCC though. And these dicks are definitely members of a MCC?

Seems like pretty sad behaviour, if criminal members of MCC's, or their kids, have fallen to the depths of stealing kids bicycles. I thought they were mad cashed up from peddling dope. Did he get his bike back? And who said this dickhead appeared with a gun, a kid? not saying this particular kid has, but kids like to make shit up.

No, I wouldn't want my kids playing in a street with thieves, car vandals, and people with guns. But more than likely, just about anywhere in Sydney these days, you're going to be around such people.

Only asking because in my personal experience with MCC members, I've not witnessed any of this, and I wonder how much of this criticism is due to what people hear, not what they know.

[robracer]

You know the people personally?

..... Know of them

And were they affiliated with a MCC themselves, or innocent bystanders?

.... innocent, wrong fuggin house

Just trying to differentiate between what personal involvement people have had with MCC's and their destructive behaviour, and what people read in the paper and hear on the news.

when its 50mt's away it has an effect on you, & to give you an Idea all the suburbs listed are the next suburbs so we were sorta surrounded

Oh & I do have personal ties with 1%'s but only at arms length.... as in I have a few clubs that I do work for & to be honest I would not trust a single one, because they talk it up all the time, I just wait till the clear off & have a good laugh.

[clay]

You know the people personally?

..... Know of them

And were they affiliated with a MCC themselves, or innocent bystanders?

.... innocent, wrong fuggin house

Just trying to differentiate between what personal involvement people have had with MCC's and their destructive behaviour, and what people read in the paper and hear on the news.

when its 50mt's away it has an effect on you, & to give you an Idea all the suburbs listed are the next suburbs so we were sorta surrounded

Oh & I do have personal ties with 1%'s but only at arms length.... as in I have a few clubs that I do work for & to be honest I would not trust a single one, because they talk it up all the time, I just wait till the clear off & have a good laugh.

That is pretty messed up if they were innocent bystanders, the criminals shot up the wrong house.

I'm sure at some stage in everyone's life they will be there, or near, when a violent act takes place, or even involved in one. It won't always be criminal members of a MCC though. It's just the society we live in.

Interesting, that you would do work for people you think so highly of, and mock them when their back is turned and they are well out of hearing range.

I'm sure your business relationship with these 1%ers divulges so much of what kind of people they really are. You would know more than me.

[robracer]

Interesting, that you would do work for people you think so highly of, and mock them when their back is turned and they are well out of hearing range.
I'm sure your business relationship with these 1%ers divulges so much of what kind of people they really are. You would know more than me.

Hey their money is as green as the next punters... no one said I had to like all the customers & when you have been to a few club party's poker runs & bike shows... yes you tend to get an idea of what going on, and as far as knowing more ...... I have been around for quite a while, but never claim to know more that anyone else .... thats your words.
Nuff said from me, no wonder I did not want to post here

[Glen]

I give up.