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Now, i spend a fair bit of time lookin at bikes on the net while i'm at work and i have discovered that for between 6 and 8 thousand dollars, u can get good quality ZX6R, ZX7R of even a good ZX9R all from around the '99 2000 mark.

Baing a banker i'm driven by numbers (i hate my job, did i mention that) and it seems to me u wouldn't bother with a 6 or7 when u can get a 9 for roughly the same price.

If anyone can explain to me why these 3 very different bikes can be bought for roughly the same amount of dosh, it would be much appreciated.
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i'd say it all depends on your riding style and what you want out of riding. The 9 has the grunt but is heavy, the 6's have less power but are lighter, smaller and easier for people to get used to a bigger bike.. And the zx7 is usually somewhere in between.. (don't know much about 7's so i'm only guessing on that one)
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The 7's heaviest of em all correct me if l'm wrong...and like tayna said depends on what u want out of riding...6 is quick and nimble, the 9 is bit bigger, punchier outa corners and ok for long hauls in my opinion, 7 is more the racer bike as it was the 'superbike' after all....
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diesel wrote:Now, i spend a fair bit of time lookin at bikes on the net while i'm at work and i have discovered that for between 6 and 8 thousand dollars, u can get good quality ZX6R, ZX7R of even a good ZX9R all from around the '99 2000 mark.

Baing a banker i'm driven by numbers (i hate my job, did i mention that) and it seems to me u wouldn't bother with a 6 or7 when u can get a 9 for roughly the same price.

If anyone can explain to me why these 3 very different bikes can be bought for roughly the same amount of dosh, it would be much appreciated.


Different amounts of kms on the odo, new vs half-worn vs replace-them-NOW tyres, heaps vs some vs barely any rego, aftermarket goodies included with the bike...

...also, do note that the range [$6,000..$8,000] represents a spread of a full third beyond the lower bound. It's not as small a spread as it might, at first, appear.

FWIW, if it's_advertised_for $6,000, any 2000-ish model Kwaka sportsbike would need to be approached with a very critical eye.

A 2000-model ZX9, for example, wouldn't come in near the bottom of that range unless it's needed to be picked out of a truck bullbar in order to be put up for sale.

As for the capacity differences... however much the 6 and the 9 might look alike at first glance, they could hardly be more different. I've got one of each, an '01 and a '98 respectively, and the only thing they have in common is that they're both blue.
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http://www.motorbikes.be/en/compare/3513/3519/

Correct Simmo, the ZX7 is a fat bastard :) They're only 10kg lighter than an 03 ZX12!
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OK so each of these bikes have got something going for them,
i understand the 7 for example has one of the best front ends around.
so what are the best bits and the worst bits of each of these examples, keeping in mind that a 9 would prob be too big a step up from the zxr250 for me.
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A mate got an excelent 9 at the beginning of last year for under 10. The only problem he has had was on last Friday arve when he tried to ride off with the disk lock on.
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ok..im sure sum of the boys will correct me along the way, but after riding all 3 in the space of a few weeks (3 -4 yrs ago pmsl) ill have a spurt....these are for 99-01 models..
*zx6r- yes the lightest,with the least power...needs to b revved a bit,handles a treat.nice even balance of weight-not too heavy for smaller guys or girls ..

*zx7r- ahhh a sweet looking bike, built for superbike,they have a forward,low centre of gravity, making it possibly the best front end kwaka ever made, altho a lil heavier than the rest, at the same time its so well balanced its still manouvreable...even for the lil fellas..harder to lift he front end than either of the others, but sound awesome...sturdy under brakes too

*zx9r- a heavier version of the 6, it has a similar balance but i found the weight a difference (being only abt 68kg when i rode em),doesnt neeed to rev as hard,pulls hard from down low, VERY easy to wheelie...i didnt like it then because of the weight, and lack of revs required to launch (i was use to revving the shit out of a 600, so when i nailed it i nearly flipped it)...also i noticed such a big tank & fairings-they r quite wide compared to a 600 i recon...
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cheers for that neka, helps a lot.
I'm only thinkin about it cos i gotta plan ahead for this kinda thing, i'll be gettin my Ps July 3rd so i wanna get a bigger bike early next year.

I've sat on a 6 and a 9 and i gotta say, the nine feels so much more comfortable than the 6. never sat on a 7, but i'm seriously considering it as an upgrade mainly for the handling.
Doesn't matter if it takes a bit to get the front wheel up, as long it goes up i'm happy :D
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I'm partial to the 6... I found it a good step up size from the ZX2R, felt big at first, but after abit of riding and pushing it around it soon didn't feel to big. The 9 for me was just abit much, at times a 9 would be nice, but the 6 gets me upto enough mischief, and goes plenty quick enough around the track. And is abit cheaper to run.
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Depends what you want to do with them and how you want to ride them, if you do mostly 200kmto 350 km rides a six is good especialy in the twisties but its power is mostly between 9 and 13000 rpm its a animal at these revs but it is designed for the track, lighter riders may disagree with this comment but if your 100kg it needs a little more tourqe.

A nine is more grunty down low which is handy it probably carries a gearsack and pillion better and as i said you dont have to rev the daylights out of it to go at a more than leisurly pace and apparently they do tour well.

Havent tested the 7r yet but i havnt seen a slow one either you might haveto try them all yourself but definitley dont be scared of the 9r it only takes a few weeks to adjust to the throttle and you will be away.
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Post by Ment »

IMHO:

The 6's are really nice but just too damn small for a man of my size.

the 9's are nice but look and feel a bit more tourer-ish than sport.

The 7, is the king of all bikes, feels great, looks better than any bike on the road, goes like a cut snake.
Just look at the race history, in the hands of mr yanagawa, they were still placing in the top five six or seven years after they were introduced.

Each to their own, but get a real bike and definatley not a fecking honda... :lol:

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go the 7, nice heavy and stable
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The other thing to think of is the risk factor.
Jumping from a 250 to a 9 is a much risker step than jumping from a 250 to a 6.
You might say 'so what?' - but this has an effect on prices too as the demand for 6's can therefore be somewhat higher.
My 9 has alot more power than I expect I'll ever need - the ZZR600 I had before had almost enough but wasn't comfortable enough for my size. If I could've found a comfortable 7 I MIGHT have gone with it instead of the 9 (pfft yeah right).
But as others have said too - condition is one of the biggest factors in the prices. I got my '99 ZX9R for $9K. There was a '98 ZX9R for $8K right beside it. But mine had some extras and was in much better condition - hence the price difference was justified.
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Post by chrjonzx9r »

i went from a zzr250 straight to a 2003 zx9.... why didnt i go on to a 600 etc... well sat on them and found that for the style of riding that i was most of the time i required something that i could ride easily and not Rev the crap out of. If i had my chance again i wouldnt hesitate for a second to get the nine over a 600 unless i was to make it a track bike only. For my size 6ft 4 and 96kg it would be like a monkey farking a basketball on anything other than a zx9. Plus it gives you a good throttle control.... knowing that you could open her up and rip your arms off in the process. It doesnt matter with what bike you get.. .you will learn to love it with all its flaws... not that the nine has any :)
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