Why I don't ride on the road anymore. Clean jocks needed ple

[Glen]

Damn lucky it was a bike coming the other way. If it have been a family in a sedan they would've been dead. Big ups to the guy on the bike for keeping his cool. I'd hope one of the cages behind the truck put him into the cops he shouldn't be driving.

I see Brads point re truckies but I think the quality of truck drivers coming through these days is woeful. You see far too many stupidly dangerous things happen now and it's giving all truckies a bad rap

[rooster]

Don't worry about the quality of truck drivers, dickheads in 4wds that learnt to drive in little hatch backs and think the 4wd towing a boat/van has the same handling charactersitics are just as bad, if not more dangerous. Should make them pass a test so they are qualified to drive a 4wd like we have to to ride, or like heavy vehicle operators, wont stop the cowboy/girls but may at leasst make some think about what it is they are operaing before being let loose on the streets of chaos like they are now.

[MrFaulty]

Don't worry about the quality of truck drivers, dickheads in 4wds that learnt to drive in little hatch backs and think the 4wd towing a boat/van has the same handling charactersitics are just as bad, if not more dangerous. Should make them pass a test so they are qualified to drive a 4wd like we have to to ride, or like heavy vehicle operators, wont stop the cowboy/girls but may at leasst make some think about what it is they are operaing before being let loose on the streets of chaos like they are now.

Good point, but in that case there could also be an argument for making supersports bike riders take another test as last time I looked, the test is not on a ZX10.

I guess my point is, there are dickheads everywhere, driving trucks, 4x4s, and yep, bikes. You can't legislate for stupidity, just hope that when stupid comes around the corner your number doesn't come up.

[Naked Twin]

But tell me this, how is a truck driver supposed to see a bike coming around a blind corner if the bike has the fender removed?

Mr Faulty, logic like that just destroys an internet discussion, please consider others who have not had the opportunity to post prior to posting such ludicrous thoughts

[dilligaf]

But tell me this, how is a truck driver supposed to see a bike coming around a blind corner if the bike has the fender removed?

Mr Faulty, logic like that just destroys an internet discussion, please consider others who have not had the opportunity to post prior to posting such ludicrous thoughts

Actually TAC want to offer him a job making ads.

[Chitchats]

.....Too many Riders i beleive these days are precious, so the truck was in his lane by about half, the rider had a shiteload of space and time and did well in not panicking like many others do, i say no harm no fowl.......

excuse me while I go and bash the fuck out of the next cock-smoking fuckhead truck driver who pulls a stunt like that in front of me.

You need to wake up and smell the roses pal. That fuckhead was *entirely* in the wrong lane - try pausing the clip and have a close look.

There was no excuse whatsoever for the position of that truck. Prior to the r/hander where he just cut the corner totally, there was a straight and a slight l/hand kink (heading downhill ie the direction of travel of the truck.)

He just cut the corner because he is a lazy cunt who doesn't give a fuck about other road users. Simple as that.

Your excuses for him are pathetic. What if the poor cunt riding the bike *DID* panic !@!!! you idiot, he would be dead and here you are defending this fucktard truckie !!!!!

HIt a nerve did i Gosling ,

At no stage in my post did i defend the actions of this truck driver.

I wasnt aware that you were there the day it happened to know "that he cut the corner because hes a lazy cunt", my apologie.

"What if the poor cunt riding the bike DID panic", well he fucking didnt you idiot.

The point of my post if you read it properly is that at the end of the day everyone went home, sure the truckie was in the wrong on the wrong side of the road, however the rider did a great job avoiding him.

As said before in my opinion, too many riders live by the "What if" rule and dwell on it.

The roads are full of arseholes, some intentional and some not even knowing the wrong they have done towards a bike.

[MrFaulty]

But tell me this, how is a truck driver supposed to see a bike coming around a blind corner if the bike has the fender removed?

Mr Faulty, logic like that just destroys an internet discussion, please consider others who have not had the opportunity to post prior to posting such ludicrous thoughts

Actually TAC want to offer him a job making ads.

Hey Nakedtwin and Dilligaf, point taken, but maybe you should really read who made the comment about the removal of the rear fender as it had me somewhat confused and funnily enough it wasn't me. That's okay, apology accepted

[dilligaf]

So Frax wants the TAC job?

[MrFaulty]

So Frax wants the TAC job?

I think that's the jist of it - personally Im not sure what the removal of the fender does to affect the visibility of the bike, especially when it is coming towards you (if you were the truck driver) but I'm sure that can be explained by someone!?

[born green]

Well this was fun!!! resisted putting up a reply
As a former truck driver, car and bike rider, i will put my 2cents worth in.
Having ridin the spurs a lot over the 15 years ive been down here, ive seen it all, the reefton is a logging road so we should all be aware of that, myself ive never had a problem with truck there, 4wd's towing boats are the worst offendres on the black spur, and wayward bike riders!!!
The closest ive come to been taken out was by a out of control harly rider on the reefton a few years ago, he came around the corner on my side of the road, dragging the primary case eyes as big as dinner plates!!! ran me off the road, now if that was a car??? or worse we hit head on and both died, how would the media run with that???
Theres good and bad in all drivers, we cant judge them all by a few bad ones,
Most truck drivers ive seen are quiet bike aware, unlike car drivers, i deal with truck drivers every day at work, and most of them ride as well.
As for the spurs and any other mountain road, how do u think car drivers view us when were tearing the road up, like we own it?? And yes ive been one of the worst offendes over the last 35 years, wander what the guy in the ss dunnydooor thort of me a few years ago on the black spur, splitting traffic at high speed, with kazz on the back holding a camera????

[Slow and wobbly]

Bike appeared to be above the 80kmh speed limit. Truck was definitely wrong by crossing a single unbroken line. Both at fault for not riding / driving with the anticipation of oncoming traffic.
BG is right. Too many motorcyclists believe they rule the roost on the spurs and surrounding roads. These days if you are going to ride through the Black Spur or Reefton then expect to be subject to police attention and expect heavy traffic of all kinds. Lake Eildon has now got water in it and as the main road to that destination every cool dude and his mates are hauling ski boats or jet skis up there. The local constabulary are armed with a range of vehicles marked and unmarked including a white Busa.
Yesterday alone there were three incidents on the black spur that required police and ambulance.
Put simply if you are going to ride the spurs these days then do so with extreme caution. Remember that there aren't any trophies waiting for you at the other end and that 80kmh is the limit not a challenge.
I now live in Toolangi and I love watching all the bikes parading past my front gate on a sunny weekend but cringe when I see them pushing it to the limit on Myers or Chum creek rds. There are some very good riders no doubt but they are far outweighed by the wannabe's that think they can ride. Since moving up here I have seen how dangerous these roads really are as I travel them several times a week. There is no way I would give it 10 10ths like I used to and consider myself lucky that I managed to get away with it when I did.
Chum creek rd and Myers creek rds are used by logging trucks also and this is a fact...they are unable to stay within their own lane for much of these roads because of their size and the width of the road. These trucks will for the next few months be using these rds as they have resumed logging in Sylvia creek and it is the most direct route down to the mills. This includes weekends so use care.
There is also one particular bloke that I met recently that has got a busted up R1 that he had only owned for 2 weeks and he himself has a few broken ribs and a punctured lung. Extremely lucky man as he managed to miss going underneath my bullbar by 2 inches and instead took out the side of my car as he over shot a corner and came towards me on the wrong side of the road.

[dilligaf]

Should I wave as I go through Toolangi? You're right about the wannabes. Was up there a few weeks back helping out with the instructed rides. As they were mainly learners they were a bit slow and we had nutters on bikes over taking in all the wrong places.

[Naked Twin]

Hey Nakedtwin and Dilligaf, point taken, but maybe you should really read who made the comment about the removal of the rear fender as it had me somewhat confused and funnily enough it wasn't me. That's okay, apology accepted

Mr Faulty the was for Frax, my comment was directed at your post after it. It was meant as a compliment. Maybe I should learn how to do a double quote

[born green]

Hey Nakedtwin and Dilligaf, point taken, but maybe you should really read who made the comment about the removal of the rear fender as it had me somewhat confused and funnily enough it wasn't me. That's okay, apology accepted

Mr Faulty the was for Frax, my comment was directed at your post after it. It was meant as a compliment. Maybe I should learn how to do a double quote

I think frax was just havin a bit of fun, its called takin the piss because we all know how dangerous our bikes become without them

[MrFaulty]

Sweet, all good