Petrol question
- StuMiller
- KSRC Contributor
- Posts: 1360
- Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:02 pm
- Bike: ZX6R
- State: Tasmania
- Location: Hobart, Tasmania
Petrol question
What is the general concensus on fuel for your road/track bike and why?
Cheers.
Cheers.
2007 ZX6 - Road bike
- Glen
- VIP MEMBER
- Posts: 7268
- Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:30 am
- Bike: ZRX
- State: New South Wales
- Location: Kellyville
Re: Petrol question
Oh dear.... whatever you do don't mention the war
I've always used the "best" available ie 98 Octane because I figure for the relatively small price differential in a tank of fuel for a bike I'd prefer not to take the chance. From running my WR426 years ago I know the thing would run like a dog on regular unleaded (had to use it once in desperation). On the roady when I've had to use lesser fuels I've never really noticed much difference.
In terms of brand I typically use either Caltex or BP, because there's two servo's near my place. I've heard bad stories about Shell Optimax but when I used to ride my roady at Ride Days at the Creek I always used it there and never had a problem.
The worst I've used is Trafagura (the imported stuff you get in Burma servo's etc) We put this in Chris YZ250F and my WR426 once and both wouldn't run due to fouled plugs.

I've always used the "best" available ie 98 Octane because I figure for the relatively small price differential in a tank of fuel for a bike I'd prefer not to take the chance. From running my WR426 years ago I know the thing would run like a dog on regular unleaded (had to use it once in desperation). On the roady when I've had to use lesser fuels I've never really noticed much difference.
In terms of brand I typically use either Caltex or BP, because there's two servo's near my place. I've heard bad stories about Shell Optimax but when I used to ride my roady at Ride Days at the Creek I always used it there and never had a problem.
The worst I've used is Trafagura (the imported stuff you get in Burma servo's etc) We put this in Chris YZ250F and my WR426 once and both wouldn't run due to fouled plugs.
It's really all about standing around drinking Dave's beer.
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
- StuMiller
- KSRC Contributor
- Posts: 1360
- Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:02 pm
- Bike: ZX6R
- State: Tasmania
- Location: Hobart, Tasmania
Re: Petrol question
I use Caltex Vortex 95, and don't seem to have any issues at all. Unsure whether Vortex 98 will give me anything extra....just thought I'd ask.
Cheers Glen.
Cheers Glen.
2007 ZX6 - Road bike
- Glen
- VIP MEMBER
- Posts: 7268
- Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:30 am
- Bike: ZRX
- State: New South Wales
- Location: Kellyville
Re: Petrol question
I reckon on any newish bike I'd run the 98 just to be safe. Pinging is your mortal enemy
It's really all about standing around drinking Dave's beer.
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
- vivek67
- KSRC Member
- Posts: 400
- Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:05 pm
- Bike: ZX6R
- State: Victoria
- Location: Reservoir
- Contact:
Re: Petrol question
I use 98 octane, because the price differential between 95 and 98 is miniscule. I like to think in my head its good for my bike 

-------------------------------------------------------------
2005 Ninja ZX6R
2005 Ninja ZX6R
-
- KSRC Regular
- Posts: 815
- Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:56 am
- Bike: Suzuki
- State: New South Wales
- Location: Sydney
Re: Petrol question
I use whatever never had issues with using all the major brands. I tend to use the higher octane only due to the cleaning additivies. I am a weekend warrior so the bike can sit still for a couple of weeks at a time without turning over and I heard that the higher octane won't go stale as fast, could be complete BS but for the $2 I don't worry.
Note the higher octane is generally speaking for high compression motors (I said generally speaking) and you are not getting any performance gain unless your bike is tuned for it
Nick
Note the higher octane is generally speaking for high compression motors (I said generally speaking) and you are not getting any performance gain unless your bike is tuned for it
Nick
- StuMiller
- KSRC Contributor
- Posts: 1360
- Joined: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:02 pm
- Bike: ZX6R
- State: Tasmania
- Location: Hobart, Tasmania
Re: Petrol question
Price isn't the issue, it's just I've kept using 95. Might go to 98 and see if I notice any change....
I run my Subaru on 95 so the jerry can at home has 95 in it.
That reminds me, I must switch the ride on lawn mower to 95 and see how she runs!!!!!
I run my Subaru on 95 so the jerry can at home has 95 in it.
That reminds me, I must switch the ride on lawn mower to 95 and see how she runs!!!!!
2007 ZX6 - Road bike
-
- KSRC Member
- Posts: 374
- Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:32 am
- Bike: ZX6R
- State: Victoria
- Location: Melbourne
Re: Petrol question
I use only 95 and up as if i dont then warranty is void.....
2009 ZX-6r Monster Energy Edition - Hotbodies MGP Growler slipon, DynoJet PCV, Dyno Jet Auto Tune, K&N Race Airfilter
- Jonno
- Mobile Chicane
- Posts: 5613
- Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2004 4:10 pm
- Bike: Other Kawi
- State: Queensland
- Location: Brisbane
- Contact:
Re: Petrol question
My bikes manuals read that its tuned to 95 so thats what goes in it and occasionally 98 goes in, when I get the autotune o2 sensor put in the 10R I imagine it could benifit from 98 although it's thicker in viscosity and harder to ignite (or so I am told) in any case I wont bother running 98 unless my tuner guy says so.
A few of us did a comparison many years ago for a few months running 98 then 95, from memory no noticable power difference but it used a bit more 98 than 95 so IMO there is no point running a grade above thinking it is better when I cant see any advantage, in fact there probably are disadvantages, maybe a few but not worth worrying about.
Some people swear by 98 and have had the "at the pump conversation" a few times with others convinced that 98 is better. Whatever.
A few of us did a comparison many years ago for a few months running 98 then 95, from memory no noticable power difference but it used a bit more 98 than 95 so IMO there is no point running a grade above thinking it is better when I cant see any advantage, in fact there probably are disadvantages, maybe a few but not worth worrying about.
Some people swear by 98 and have had the "at the pump conversation" a few times with others convinced that 98 is better. Whatever.

- Six Addict
- Pinchy
- Posts: 6465
- Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:51 pm
- Bike: Ducati
- State: New South Wales
- Location: Darlinghurst, Sydney
- born green
- KSRC Contributor
- Posts: 1491
- Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:59 am
- Bike: ZX10R
- State: Victoria
- Location: blind bight vic
Re: Petrol question
98 for me. Guy who dyno'd my track bike, 98 only, and he stressed that. Reason he said, engine's running full advace,ie no retard that the factory built into them,neen 98 to stop pinging. So i run 98
been using caltex vortex most times, if not BP
been using caltex vortex most times, if not BP
96 ZX7R roady
07 ZX10R tracky. to many mods to list here!
95 tickford XR6,
SO MANY KAWASAKI'S SO LITTLE TIME
07 ZX10R tracky. to many mods to list here!
95 tickford XR6,
SO MANY KAWASAKI'S SO LITTLE TIME
-
- KSRC Contributor
- Posts: 2075
- Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:00 pm
- Location: Toowoomba/Ipswich Queensland
Re: Petrol question
If your bike is CARBURETTED run the lowest octane fuel that doesn't ping. Injected bikes can adjust to octane to some degree and some improvement in performance can be had. I run all my vehicles on 7-11 91 octane fuel (which is Shell fuel actually) with no problems. I have 10 bikes and two cars running on it and all is well. One way of checking fuel quality is plug wear. Changed the plugs on the ZRX recently after 20000km and they still looked like new. Didn't really have to change them at all. 

2 X ZRX1200R 4 X ER6N, GT550, 1988 ZX-10, 4 X GPZ250R, 4 X GPZ900R and GPZ750R
Yeah I like Kawasakis.

Re: Petrol question
91 in the ZR7 with no problems but it is a carburetted engine
2005 BMW R1200RT
2012 ZX6R
2012 ZX6R
-
- KSRC Member
- Posts: 165
- Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:07 pm
- Bike: ZX10R
- State: New South Wales
- Location: nsw
Re: Petrol question
i use 91-95 as its cheaper and does the job , havent had a prob with in 5 years , however if i'm a country area with a no name servo i will use their 98 premium.
zx-10r
- Strika
- VIP MEMBER
- Posts: 8373
- Joined: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:02 am
- Bike: Yamaha
- State: Victoria
- Location: Melbourne
Re: Petrol question
My Rex Pings on 91 horribly, a little on 95 and not at all on 98. So I run 98!
I also did the comparison on economy and 91 uses more, so the value almost equals out on the Rex.
With the old MR2, it pings it's head off till the knock sensor kicks in on 91 and 95, so I use 98 where possible. It also uses a lot more fuel on 91 than it does on 98. Like 80klms per 50 litres more.

I also did the comparison on economy and 91 uses more, so the value almost equals out on the Rex.
With the old MR2, it pings it's head off till the knock sensor kicks in on 91 and 95, so I use 98 where possible. It also uses a lot more fuel on 91 than it does on 98. Like 80klms per 50 litres more.
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me" Hunter S. Thompson.
There are really only two questions in life. 1.Which way do i go? 2.What is the lap record?
There are really only two questions in life. 1.Which way do i go? 2.What is the lap record?