whats the go if caught on an overpowered bike?

[mike-s]

saying the word "post" is a bit redundant, yes?

[dutchy]

I found an interesting article about a guy who got off the fine...

MAN CAUGHT RIDING OVERSIZED BIKE AND GETS OFF

To be honest, the first time I rode an oversized bike, I got off too

[Jonno]

define "off"

[Strika]

I may have commented earlier in this thread, but at the risk of repeating myself, I can't pass judgement on anyone who would go down this path. The day I got off my L's, I went out and bought a 750. Mind you it was 75hp and 230kgs, so in comparison it was probably like buying a ER6 in power terms. But, a few months later became a GPX 750 with 90hp and 220kgs. A few months after that it became a GSXR1100. None of which I ever crashed and I'm still here to talk about it. St that point I didn't posess the skills I have today and survived.

Personally, I feel very restricted by modern laws. It's like I just keep watching as my life progresses, this ever tightening net, which continually restricts my freedoms bit by bit.

Laws used to be metered out with common sense, something which governments believe the general public do not have. It's in my eyes a bit like kids. If you tell them for long enough they are bad, they will be. Teach them with positivity and they will more often be good.

I realise my attitudes towards laws are from the past, but, I fail to see why if the way laws were enforced back then worked then, why wouldn't it work now. I see rules for Fucking everything everywhere now. We all apparently need protection from our selves as we are not capable of surviving without it.

Can't park here, can't smoke there, can't complete a ride to your favourite piece of road, even without breaking any laws without being pulled over.

Mandatory lights on, motorcycle rego levy, police in camouflage gear hiding in bushes. Not the Australia I grew up in and enjoyed. I honestly feel a little stressed each time I ride. How many rego and licence checks will I have to have interrupt my ride today?

[Jonno]

Personally, I feel very restricted by modern laws. It's like I just keep watching as my life progresses, this ever tightening net, which continually restricts my freedoms bit by bit.

Laws used to be metered out with common sense, something which governments believe the general public do not have.

I have that same feeling but dont know how to verbal it without attracting the fun police.

You could start a whole topic on our lessening freedoms in a so called free country that supposedly has free speech which now resembles a cotton wool society.

Send me back to the late 70's man, you could ride around in the back of utes then

[Strika]

And a few beers after work and a drive home didn't kill anyone or land you in gaol as long as you didn't take the piss. If you did, you wouldn't just cop a charge, but also a hiding to teach you a lesson. Not a bad thing for some in my opinion.

120 in a 100 zone on clear country roads was normal and the plod would usually wave a "thanks for not taking the piss and doing more than that" wave and not bat an eyelid. Sure if you were being silly, they would nail you. But within reason, they weren't interested in you.

A wheelstand might get you a stern talking to but as long as it wasn't a habit, they would leave you alone. You only ever got stopped by them if you were being a dick. otherwise it was carry on motoring.

Everything has become too PC and too anal. Just one more rule and we'll all be safe!

[MickLC]

...Everything has become too PC and too anal. Just one more rule and we'll all be safe!

That's because they are trying to deal with the lowest common demoninator, which lets face it are likely to take themselves out regardless anyway

Add in trial by media and a healthy revenue stream and we're stuck in an endless loop of more and more draconian rules...

[Glen]

It's like everything now though, as Mick says they cater for the lowest common denominator.

Anyone remember cracker night? When I was a kid it was the best thing all year, even better then Xmas and your birthday. You'd spend weeks getting everything you could get together so you could get the biggest bonfire in the street and then every day you'd scrape together every cent you could to buy bungers, some of which you'd use to blow up old Mrs Mc'Gillicuddys letterbox and some you'd keep for Cracker night. Sure you'd do some dumb shit but 99% of us lived. Then some twat goes and sticks a Thunder in a Milkbottle, loses an eye and kapow the do gooders wipe out Cracker night becuase we all need to be protected from ourselves.

I'm sounding old but it sucks and I think society as a whole is just a bit too precious these days. Bring risk back into our lives, after all we do really need to cull the slow runners from the herd occasionally, it's nature.

[Jonno]

I think litigation and duty of care has caused alot of this, mostly I blame the media for whipping up hysteria for ratings and pollies being too soft and acting upon it.

As a kid If i fell off my billycart and smashed my face it was MY fault and went home to a scrubbing brush, mercurochrome and ya old dad laughing at you then making up a good story for the kids at school.

These days you couldn't even ride a cart without attracting some do gooder law penalty (lawn mower wheels not meeting ADR) and your parents being investigated for child abuse and then suing the council for a crack in the footpath that may have caused it and having your image all over facebook in a personal attack.


Yeah sounding old is one thing but they were good fun days, cops would give ya a kick in the ass and send you on your way with the worse threat of telling ya dad if you do it again.

Parenting and society has become "its about me" , its all too soft and little respect IMO.

[Greenblood]

[Blurr]

people need more faith in NATURAL SELECTION

[tim]

Agree with everything said on this page, I'm glad my childhood was mostly how it "used" to be, I just wish I could have ridden motorbikes in that period too.

Reading the local paper yesterday on the "crime" page the main story were two young guys who were "Street Racing" on a 3 lane major highway in the middle of the night at up to speeds of 130km/hr and were unlucky enough to pass an unmarked cop car. The way they were made out to be the biggest scumbags had me ranting to the Mrs. They had big pictures of them, named them etc.

The right hand column had 4 or 5 very small stories for the rest of the week in crime:

- 2 murders
- the Rebels motorcycle gang being raided and stolen vehicles and weapons used in crimes being discovered
- Crime and theft spree in a particular area.

But the guys doing 130 on a deserted road hurting no one, huge news bloody ridiculous.

Between the RTA, the media and the police it's a circus.

[mike-s]

Tim, that last ones a shocker, write a letter to the editor criticising their priorities. If the paper pisses you off let them know, even if it doesn't get published at least the assistant editor will get to read it and it might at least make them think slightly next time they try jumping on that bandwagon. Your

Second the motion i am glad my youth was in the "good old days" before they tried to legislate against stupidity. What ever happened to personal responsibility? Some of the youth are a right pack of assholes due to the cotton-wooling. No smacking, oh god, don't get me started on that. Sure beating your kid up or giving em a belting is wrong but there has got to be nothing against a well placed slap for a teenager or a smack on the bum or legs for an unruly child to help keep the little bastards in check.

Fuck, im sounding old here.

[Bazza]

Give it a couple o' years and it'll be 1984, Thought Police and all. Then i'm gonna be in a lotta trouble...

For those who think i'm confused about what year it is, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

Spent a bit of time in South Carolina on business earlier in the year, bloke over there couldn't believe some of the shit we put up with regarding laws. Kept tellin' me we lived in a bloody socialist society or somethin' (tbh i dont get what that means, but the gist was negative).

Wish i had the 'good old days' to look back on, but for us young bucks this is just how shit is.

[mike-s]

Wiki link. Think of china.