any zx10r riders out there who were previously 9 riders?

[Blurr]

Says the guy with the 6 year old 10..

It's fate, you could end up with a year 10 model 6

[seiko1]

A 10 is 6/10th's of a bike so it all fit's

[Blurr]

A 10 is 6/10th's of a bike so it all fit's

yes true but I'll still back my 6/10ths of a bike against your barge

[Jonno]

Careful Russ, it is close enough to my brood to get pesky

[maraach]

ok.. question to the 12 riders out there then... how does the pillion seating compare to the 9? Originally wasnt even considering it seeing i assumed the 10 would be a no-go for my wife...

it looks from pictures wise that on the 12, the pillion seat is a lot higher than on the 9.. is this the case?

Having a Mrs who is 5'11" can have its drawbacks when it comes to motorcycling...

[Glen]

A 10 is 6/10th's of a bike so it all fit's

yes true but I'll still back my 6/10ths of a bike against your barge

So which bike is a 10 6/10ths of ? Would that be the very rare Kawasaki ZX1666 Now that would truly be a barge.

ZX14 Riders...........don't ask them to help with your maths homework

[Nelso]

ok.. question to the 12 riders out there then... how does the pillion seating compare to the 9? Originally wasnt even considering it seeing i assumed the 10 would be a no-go for my wife...

it looks from pictures wise that on the 12, the pillion seat is a lot higher than on the 9.. is this the case?

Having a Mrs who is 5'11" can have its drawbacks when it comes to motorcycling...

Get her to start riding.

[Blurr]

ZX14 Riders...........don't ask them to help with your maths homework

If they could grasp elementary maths then they would be smart enough to stay away from the zx14.

Hey it's a vicious circle but someone has to buy them off Kawa

[maraach]

ok.. question to the 12 riders out there then... how does the pillion seating compare to the 9? Originally wasnt even considering it seeing i assumed the 10 would be a no-go for my wife...

it looks from pictures wise that on the 12, the pillion seat is a lot higher than on the 9.. is this the case?

Having a Mrs who is 5'11" can have its drawbacks when it comes to motorcycling...

Get her to start riding.

been there, done that . Her bike is currently for sale in the for sale section.. unfortunately a string of bad luck has turned her off the prospect.. good for me as it frees up funds for a new toy.. but bad at the same time.

[Strika]

Maraach, I havn't weighed into this debate much, but I am reading your list of requirements and I just can't help but think you would be well served having a very serious look at a ZRX again. I know you have ridden one and know some of what they can do, but I am not sure you really understand the full potential of a ZRX.

Take my path to ZRX ownership as an example......here is sorta how it went.

I had a ZX9, which I was using to travel up and down Melbourne-Sydney and sometime Brisvegas also. I was like you, I loved the 9. But, my back was giving me curry at the time, so I thought I would invest in a tourer for this purpose and keep the 9 as my Sunday sports bike.
I ended up buying a BMW R1100RS. The R1100 was perfect for the use intended, but turned out to be an unreliable piece of shit which damn near killed me when the diff shat itself and locked up mid corner.

With that, I promptly sold it and ended up buying a ZRX1200S to fit with hard luggage and have as my interstater. Once I had picked it up, I decided to take it out for a Sunday run with the Melbourne Sportsbike Riders, who for the most part can steer PFG. If I want to pass one of the faster guys, I have to be on top of my game, even when riding a full on sports bike. These boys and girls can ride. Anyway, we get to the morning tea stop and I go over to a mate who I have ridden with for over 20 years and who usually has awesome derbies with me on every ride we do and asked why he was so slow today. His response surprised me as he reckons he was peddling as fast as he could and that the ZRX is a deceptively fast bike. He couldn't believe how well it turned and how well it held it's line once on it's side. Plus, add to that the lazy grunt it has and you have one very fast, very comfortable point to point bike! It has brilliant pillion accommodation, (Can also get pillion lowering pegs from the U.S. for them, being that your bride is blessed with height, to make her long svelte legs even more comfortable on a long haul), a comfortable pillion seat and with all that grunt, you tend not to notice the extra weight of the pillion (Not meaning that your bride carries extra weight, meaning the additional body on the bike ).

OK, so some don't consider the image of the ZRX to be suitable and I get the fact that if fashion is an influencing factor, you don't have EFI, Upside downers, Radial calipers and M/Cylinder, Alloy frames etc., But put fashion aside and the ZRX is one mighty capable bike on the road.

[Phil]

Maraach, I havn't weighed into this debate much, but I am reading your list of requirements and I just can't help but think you would be well served having a very serious look at a ZRX again. I know you have ridden one and know some of what they can do, but I am not sure you really understand the full potential of a ZRX.

Take my path to ZRX ownership as an example......here is sorta how it went.

I had a ZX9, which I was using to travel up and down Melbourne-Sydney and sometime Brisvegas also. I was like you, I loved the 9. But, my back was giving me curry at the time, so I thought I would invest in a tourer for this purpose and keep the 9 as my Sunday sports bike.
I ended up buying a BMW R1100RS. The R1100 was perfect for the use intended, but turned out to be an unreliable piece of shit which damn near killed me when the diff shat itself and locked up mid corner.

With that, I promptly sold it and ended up buying a ZRX1200S to fit with hard luggage and have as my interstater. Once I had picked it up, I decided to take it out for a Sunday run with the Melbourne Sportsbike Riders, who for the most part can steer PFG. If I want to pass one of the faster guys, I have to be on top of my game, even when riding a full on sports bike. These boys and girls can ride. Anyway, we get to the morning tea stop and I go over to a mate who I have ridden with for over 20 years and who usually has awesome derbies with me on every ride we do and asked why he was so slow today. His response surprised me as he reckons he was peddling as fast as he could and that the ZRX is a deceptively fast bike. He couldn't believe how well it turned and how well it held it's line once on it's side. Plus, add to that the lazy grunt it has and you have one very fast, very comfortable point to point bike! It has brilliant pillion accommodation, (Can also get pillion lowering pegs from the U.S. for them, being that your bride is blessed with height, to make her long svelte legs even more comfortable on a long haul), a comfortable pillion seat and with all that grunt, you tend not to notice the extra weight of the pillion (Not meaning that your bride carries extra weight, meaning the additional body on the bike ).

OK, so some don't consider the image of the ZRX to be suitable and I get the fact that if fashion is an influencing factor, you don't have EFI, Upside downers, Radial calipers and M/Cylinder, Alloy frames etc., But put fashion aside and the ZRX is one mighty capable bike on the road.

And it feels like your doing 100 when your doing 100, not feeling like 100 when your doing about 240 on a ZX12R.

I had a 9, could NEVER own a 12, they are just to fast to easy - and I love my ZRX.

[Jonno]

The 12R pillion seat looks to be perched up a little higher than a 9 but when you park them side by side the dimensions are similar only the wheel base is obviously longer.
I had my son on my 12 often and he is 6'3, he did sit a 3/4 helmet height above me only being 6', he occasionally caught side winds and some buffeting at speed, however he never complained.
Mind you, most 12R owners are of the larger type body and cut a fair path for the pillion to sit in behind

I think the ZRX would the better option for your criteria if you take the bride often, are not into hyper touring and don't see the need for full fairings.

The 14 apparently is good for pillions, again I suggest to test ride with and without the Mrs on board.


A very interesting thread

[maraach]

this is turning into a interesting thread indeed... but it's also messing with my head... At several times throughout this thread i have been convinced on different bikes. Then, someone mentions something that makes me reconsider my options.

Firstly to respond to strika's post.. I do remember your 9 well, same bike as i ended up with. When i said i liked the ZRX.. i meant it. It was a great bike. I enjoyed riding it. The reason i decided (at that time) not to pursue that path was because the main reason i liked it is because it felt (well to me) not too dissimilar to my 9. So, when it came down to it i thought, is it really worth the hassle of changing when at the end of the day i still preferred the look of my 9?.. yes... i will admit it, the look is what kept me on the 9 at that stage. Also, the zrx i was looking at was in a reasonable condition, but wasn't in the same condition as my 9 (which, with only 14k on the clock is pretty much spotless). It was a bike that i thought i would love to own if i could have more than one bike. In saying that i would also have a z750 or a er-6n in the garage if that were the case. I really should give it another shot though.

I think the underlying problem is one that many of us as riders seem to face and that's why this thread has become so popular. A lot of us seem to want a bike that has that sports bike look, but necessarily that sports bike 'comfort'.

The reason i think the 9 was originally so popular is because it did a great job of being a sports bike that also had real world practicality. It amuses me that when it comes to cars one of the hottest segments of the market at the moment is the 'hot hatch' category. Car's which are positioned at the late 20+ market who like sports cars but can't compromise on the draw backs of sports cars. It baffles me that its taken so long for bikes to join this trend, but in saying that how do you do it? Perhaps the problem is that the reason they haven't is that it isn't practical to build a bike with the qualities of a sports bike (nimble, light, quick) etc. but make it a bit more forgiving in seating position.

However, it really does seem with some of the new offerings (like the ninja 1000) that bike manufacturers are realising there is a market like me out there.. which is promising. For a long time the new bikes just haven't excited me all that much. I have a lot of faith in the ninja 1000 (which may be misguided) but i don't see me getting one for at least a couple more years. Honestly when i stepped onto my 9.. for the first time i found myself not wishing i had a bike with more power... and that has continued to this day. At the 114kw it was last dyno'd at, the bike has plenty of 'grunt' for me.. even fully laden.

Anyway i just realised i'm raving.. I will step off my soap box now and go back to pondering which bike is right for me... the more i think about it however the more i keep coming back to the 9. All i can hope to do is have the opportunity to ride all the contenders and find one that suits me. All the better if i can work out a way to do this without annoying Flywheels who are one of the main reasons I only consider Kawasaki's as a contender for another bike.

[Glen]

Yep it's a dilemna, although a pretty good one. I've been pondering what's next for about a month now. At the moment I'm leaning towards a new Zed but there's another "fun" contender floating around from way out of left field (Italian), but I don't know that I feel comfortable with a non Jap bike and the lack of reliability concerns, plus the shitbagging I'd cop on here

If there was a new Rex still around it'd probably be up there too, but I want a newey. Oh for an updated modern version of the Rex.

Then again there is this
http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/p ... &silo=1400

Mmmmmmmmmmm

[Phil]

Then again there is this
http://www.bikesales.com.au/all-bikes/p ... &silo=1400

Mmmmmmmmmmm

This is what known as a "blank canvas" I think there are probably several members who would/should be after this. Is like a guy I work with who is quite heavily tattod, he gets jealous when I talk about what I'm gonna get next.

Same as I see someone get a new Rex and wish it was mine - so I could do the modding thang again - there is not much left for me to do except start on the mota. And we all know there is no logical reason to do that.......but since when has logic had anything to do with mororcycles.

Your in Sydney, perhaps you need to come anjd have a look at my Rex and tell me that it doesnt "stir your loins" - after you've seen it in person Also, as a former 9 owner I know your pain.

I have two quotes for you in relation to the ZRX, 1, "the ZRX - best blank canvas for creating your own ride. I have the contacts to make this happen. Only limit is your imagination /

2, "The ZRX, more then the sum of its parts"

I'm not responsible for either - nor am I responsible.