Pushing the boundaries?

[Ratmick]

http://www.theage.com.au/national/polic ... -b6kd.html

Another young male not breaking the law nor putting himself or his passengers at risk and just 'pushing the boundaries'?

Mick

[ducati_paul]

Another young male not breaking the law

The man from Horsham in Victoria's west was nabbed by police about 1am today travelling 162kmh in a 100kmh zone

I wanna move to where you are! in Sydney speeding by 62km/h is breaking the law!

[BarraSpalding]

yea... thank christ he was nabbed hit first night and not left to do it over and over and eventually kill someone.

I do believe the law is a little strict... ie. only allowed to carry 1 passenger aged 16-21... what if your an 60 yr old grandma that for one reason or another your on a probationary licence... does that mean she can only carry 1 of her grandchildren but have as many of her similary aged bingo playing friends as she likes???

I'd say travelling at 162Km/h in a 100 zone is sure putting your passengers at risk... how the fck dare he put 2 other lives at risk for his own enjoyment

[gpxpunk]

we lived in horsham for awhile, and it doesnt suprise me in the slightest. the roads down there becon you to put your foot down.
There is the road between horsham and dimbola, and it has a straight that goes for about 6-10kms, and you can see everything ahead of you. its the best place to see top speeds. lol just got to watch contrators sitting on the side of the road with the speed camera hahaha

[tim]

I do believe the law is a little strict... ie. only allowed to carry 1 passenger aged 16-21... what if your an 60 yr old grandma that for one reason or another your on a probationary licence... does that mean she can only carry 1 of her grandchildren but have as many of her similary aged bingo playing friends as she likes???

*RANT WARNING!*

Exactly, how about the widowed mother who gets her licence to drive her teenagers around to after-school activities but can't, or the middle-aged immigrant on his ps with 3 teenagers, stupid law!

It used to be that drink-driving was the worry---> designated driver campaign for youth. Where's that campaign these days? It's contradictory to these laws!

One sober 19 year old with a car full of drunk buddies meant none of them had to drive themselves home, can't do that anymore.

Mates who want to all go to the beach together on the weekend - can't do that, stupid, too restrictive!

We elect and pay government administrators to work for us, but It feels increasingly to me like they work to protect themselves and the result is the loss of community and freedoms.

Headlines dictating policy, not the best interests of our community!?!?

[mike-s]

im sure that restriction is for P platers under a certain age, and a dispensation is if they are carrying relatives to a family picnic or something, if not, fark that.

[gpxpunk]

believe me there is nothing else to do down there apart from speeding hahaha, he was trying to get away from the town lmao

[Strika]

http://www.theage.com.au/national/polic ... -b6kd.html

Another young male not breaking the law nor putting himself or his passengers at risk and just 'pushing the boundaries'?

Mick

You really are an unrealistic wanker Mick! I know that area pretty well from my days as a rep. It's bumfuck idaho FFS! Not much risk of hurting anyone, regardless of doing 160kph, or 260kph! You must have been the only person on the planet, not to do something like this when you first had your licence! FFS, I remember finding a quite rd and having my old mans ZJ fairlane wound out to 200kph on the first or second day I had my licence! Personally, I reckon the kid is a little unlucky! But Mick, you just carry on bringing these serious isssues to us will ya! It's obviously a great community service you perform, providing the rest of us with this information! It;s people with attitudes like yours, who will eventually have motorcycles banned from the rd due to their lack of safety!

[Ratmick]

Jeez Marty, I thought you were a mate but obviously you're not.

You think I'm an "unrealistic wanker" for pointing out some laws are there for a reason???

Well I think you are an immature idiot with no regard for rules nor anyone but yourself and your self-belief and grossly inflated ego beggars belief.

Quite frankly while I thought you were a mate it's pretty clear you don't really give a fuck about anyone or anything but yourself and your right to do whatever the fuck you like.

BTW I can't be fucked reading any more of your "I did a zillion gazelles down the Warburton Hwy and I'm so fucking good" or "I've been there and you can easily do a zillion gazelles" self-promoting drivel any long so please blow your self-aggrandisement shit out of your arse.

Mick

[Jonno]

*snip* it's pretty clear you don't really give a fuck about anyone or anything but yourself and your right to do whatever the fuck you like.

Der, been obvious for at least 2 years.

[Strika]

Self-aggreandishment?? I'm not the holier than thou person who posted the original thread? But, sorry, I forgot that you are perfect and have never broken the speed limit!

Oh, and Mick, I still consider you a mate and I would say exactly the same thing to any mate who made similiar comments. On the putter, or in person!

However, you psoted that thread for a reason. Which I can only assume, is that you honestly believe that this young person has done an incredibly bad thing, when in fact, all he has done is speed in what could only be described as no mans land, like most (apart from you obviously) did when we were that age! Mick this is the real world, not some sanitised environment created by those who believe we are all in need of protection from ourselves! (although the way things are going that won;t be too far away!)

Oh and just for the record, I never speed on the warburton Hwy! It's not the place for it!

[Strika]

*snip* it's pretty clear you don't really give a fuck about anyone or anything but yourself and your right to do whatever the fuck you like.

Der, been obvious for at least 2 years.

So...it was non existent or not eveident in the first two years????

I find this an interesting comment to come from someone who doesn't know me?

[Ratmick]

Self-aggreandishment?? I'm not the holier than thou person who posted the original thread? But, sorry, I forgot that you are perfect and have never broken the speed limit!

Oh, and Mick, I still consider you a mate and I would say exactly the same thing to any mate who made similiar comments. On the putter, or in person!

However, you posted that thread for a reason. Which I can only assume, is that you honestly believe that this young person has done an incredibly bad thing, when in fact, all he has done is speed in what could only be described as no mans land, like most (apart from you obviously) did when we were that age! Mick this is the real world, not some sanitised environment created by those who believe we are all in need of protection from ourselves! (although the way things are going that won;t be too far away!)

Oh and just for the record, I never speed on the warburton Hwy! It's not the place for it!

The Warburton was an example, obviously a bad one .

Look Marty, I am flattered you still think I'm a mate. Having said that none of my mates have called me a unrealistic wanker before, so maybe that caught me out.

You've no doubt noticed that nowhere in my threads did I ever say I didn't do anything remiss in my youth...but having said that I was and still am remarkably boring. I've never smoked (anything legal or otherwise) I have never taken drugs, apart from the alcohol in red wine and beer and the caffiene in coffee. I have had mates that have indulged in my presence, personally I didn't give a shit what they ingested (still don't) and I was quite happy to act as the designated driver or pizza maker. They always offered whatever they were taking at least once, but I always declined and everyone's happy.

It's pretty clear we're looking at things from different perspectives, you seem to see the rules there as a limit to be broken whenever it's clear to you you can get away with it. I see them as a guide we should at east try and abide by as there are normally good reasons why they are there. These reasons aren't always negative to motorcyclists in general, although they can sometimes seem that way. Most of them are common sense, something that young men in general seem to sometimes lack and I probably did suffered the same lack of good judgement at the same age.

As for now, well I am now in my mid-40s and I have only having ridden for a relatively short time compared to the rest of you guys on here and I am well aware of my own limitations. I am now essentially a single-father and responsible for the upbringing of three teenage children (plus the partner of a wonderful lady with one child more living with us). As such I don't generally put myself position where I would possibly jeopardise my ability to care for them and hence try to minimise risk-taking behaviour to a minimum. Motorcycling in general is inherently risky and as I feel responsible to them and myself to be a provider and father I am into minimising risk. I gather this comes across as boring / 'holier than thou' / 'unrealistic' or whatever to you but mate you come across exactly the opposite.

You seem to think everything that every dopey P-Plater does is fine as long as no-one gets hurt, the road is long flat and open or they aren't caught. Realistically mate this is all good until someone gets hurt or they are caught. Often they hurt themselves - badly. Sometimes they take someone else out with them who didn't deserve it. Sometimes this is a mate, or a brother or sister. The papers are full of pictures of kids that have wrapped themselves, their cars or bikes and/or their mates around trees on open flat boring roads after doing unreasonable speeds with virtually no experience. Maybe I'm boring, but this seems pretty stupid behaviour. Maybe I was lucky doing unreasonable speeds when I was younger, and maybe you were too. Not everyone is lucky.

Anyway in my case I can neither afford the fines, don't want the points and CANNOT lose my license under any circumstances. It's just not possible living out here without one and quite frankly there are so many ways you can lose it quite easily you have to be extra-careful if you can't live without one.

Also from a moral point of view I'd also never be able to live with myself if I caused injury to someone else by causing an accident due to something which was inherently wrong to start with.

Sorry to bite your head off, it hasn't been a good couple of weeks.

Mick

[Jonno]

*snip* it's pretty clear you don't really give a fuck about anyone or anything but yourself and your right to do whatever the fuck you like.

Der, been obvious for at least 2 years.

So...it was non existent or not eveident in the first two years????

I find this an interesting comment to come from someone who doesn't know me?

Since you asked, thanks for this, been waiting for a while

You know who I am I want to speek to you!

[ZXR750]

The road rules are usually there for the lowest common denominator eg the ones with the least ability and or experience. I would think that a young driver with less than a days experience of driveing legally on a public road should not be doing 162 KM/H. Yes I have been known to speed both at the present and when I was younger. So many people have survived such actions but so many have not. A straight piece of road may seem harmless but they are usually the ones that catch you out. Who else can he hurt? well for starters there where two others in the car with him. How many people could be in a car coming the other way? HIs actions were extreamly irrisponsible to say the least and if he learns from this then great, if not I hope he gets caught again.