Qld Anti Biking Laws

[Dr Phill]

Just had this emailed to me from one of the lads at work.... WTF!?!?

New Qld laws target ALL motorcycle groups
Shock New Queensland laws proposed to outlaw social riding groups.

From todays paper:

On Monday Queensland Premier Anna Bligh announced her Government would draft laws over the next few months to declare groups involved in criminal activity as "prescribed organisations" and make membership of such groups illegal, along with other "lawbreaking" organisations such as "stunters" "forum riders" and "bike drifters".

The move was in response to concerns about escalating tensions which erupted into violence last month. But UQT criminal law expert Associate Professor Cornelius Schlewenhardt said the laws being considered by the Government were "counter-productive and potentially dangerous in their narrowness", as many of the other mentioned groups were involved in offences that were just as serious in the eyes of the law.

"Some people have said these anti-biker laws target only the slow and the stupid - people who are silly enough to wear badges that say 'I belong to a criminal group'," Professor Schlewenhardt said. "The real danger are people who may not even identify themselves as members of outlaw gangs but were involved in serious organised lawbreaking through the use of internet forums and word of mouth.These "gangs" used organised rides to perform illegal and potentially lethal "stunts" and high speed riding contests."

Professor Schlewenhardt said that similar laws introduced overseas simply led to groups reforming under different names. "Most of the groups simply changed there names from the outlawed one to a similar, but legally acceptable version. For example, an outlawed "stunter" gang in Southern California simply changed the name of their gang to "OC Stunters" from the outlawed "OC Stuntaz" thwarting law enforcement officers efforts to outlaw them."

An attempt by the Opposition to introduce similar legislation in October 2007 was voted down by the government but yesterday Premier Bligh said the new draft laws "were much better". "There are a number of parts of the previous proposition that we believed were unprofitable," she said.

Professor Schlewenhardt urged the State Government to wait for the conclusion later this year of a federal inquiry into legislative arrangements to outlaw serious and organised anti social motorcycle riding behaviour.

"It would be a silly waste of taxpayers' money to ignore this research," he said.

Yesterday Police Minister Neal Roberts moved to reassure the public should have nothing to fear from so-called "recreational" bike riders . He said the laws were necessary to prevent Queensland becoming a safe haven for illegal road riding activities, and their scope would not be limited. "This is all about identifying criminal activity including speeding, drifting, burnouts and illegal modifications" Mr Roberts said.

"We intend to intorduce a range of measures, including the assignment of an extra 40 officers during April to "Operation Tonto" which would be targeting rear mudguard modification offences.

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[quote="Dr Phill"]On Monday Queensland Premier Anna Bligh announced her Government would draft laws over the next few months to declare groups involved in criminal activity as "prescribed organisations" and make membership of such groups illegal, along with other "lawbreaking" organisations such as "stunters" "forum riders" and "bike drifters".

Bike drifters some little jurno has got no farking Idea.... get ya guns ready boyz

Edit someone is pulling your leg

[Six Addict]

i dont ride the forums, i ride my bike and post on forums...

silly journos, this is where the whole effing alco-pop thing came from, effing journos, there is no drink on the market called an alcopop

[Six Addict]

"We intend to intorduce a range of measures, including the assignment of an extra 40 officers during April to "Operation Tonto" which would be targeting rear mudguard modification offences.

oh and we know this is causing terrible strife in the community, this is where police and the pollies who govern them get in trouble... assigning 40 EXTRA police to check motorcycle mudguards??!!! c'mon, there has to be a more pressing issue in the community with regards to law enforcement than our rear mudguards!!!!

this shits me to tears!!!!

[craig]

i don't like the use of the term " unprofitable " in relation to a law ...........seems they have changed the original draft only to make it "PROFITABLE" and this will help it through parliament passed it.............or am i just misinterperating it................could be why BM is getting out doesn't want to be a member of a criminal forum................................best of luck with your health young lady

[dutchy]

KSRC officially targeted. Expect heavy police escorts at any rides posted on this, hideous, outlaw, criminal, gang forum!!

[marksesh]

If you read carefully, It targets OUTLAW motor cycle clubs involved in illegal activity. We on these and other forums do not class ourselves as outlaws or invole ourselves in criminal activity. Well.. not that I know of anyway. I know I'm not.
dont worry about it. one of the codes of the bikies is "NO JAP CRAP" We are well and truly safe.

[Six Addict]

except the press release also mentions stunt riding clubs, or speeding, or anything even remotely illegal... like having a fender eliminator, qld seem to be spreading the net wider than nsw or sa

[Nosferatu]

.....The move was in response to concerns about escalating tensions which erupted into violence last month......

Can anyone tell me when the last time 2 groups of "FORUM RIDERS" had a shootout or beat each other to death in a public place?

"Some people have said these anti-biker laws target only the slow and the stupid - people who are silly enough to wear badges that say 'I belong to a criminal group'," Professor Schlewenhardt said. "The real danger are people who may not even identify themselves as members of outlaw gangs but were involved in serious organised lawbreaking through the use of internet forums and word of mouth.These "gangs" used organised rides to perform illegal and potentially lethal "stunts" and high speed riding contests."

Who is this clown? Since when does some key in, brain out crotch rocket rider's "potentially lethal stunts and high speed riding contests" generally cause mass unrest and fear when they happen to outride their Stoner-like ability and wrap themselves around a tree? Oh, thats right, he's part of a forum, he must be running drugs.

Professor Schlewenhardt said that similar laws introduced overseas simply led to groups reforming under different names. "Most of the groups simply changed there names from the outlawed one to a similar, but legally acceptable version. For example, an outlawed "stunter" gang in Southern California simply changed the name of their gang to "OC Stunters" from the outlawed "OC Stuntaz" thwarting law enforcement officers efforts to outlaw them."

Well, if it didn't stop anyone in the States, it HAS to be a good waste of taxpayers money to try the same thing here. And then there is the added money drain of trying to prove its the same "gang" to get that name outlawed too.

An attempt by the Opposition to introduce similar legislation in October 2007 was voted down by the government but yesterday Premier Bligh said the new draft laws "were much better". "There are a number of parts of the previous proposition that we believed were unprofitable," she said.

Yep, no one wanted it in '07, but now that NSW has it in, lets try it again here. BAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAA

Professor Schlewenhardt urged the State Government to wait for the conclusion later this year of a federal inquiry into legislative arrangements to outlaw serious and organised anti social motorcycle riding behaviour.

"It would be a silly waste of taxpayers' money to ignore this research," he said.

Yesterday Police Minister Neal Roberts moved to reassure the public should have nothing to fear from so-called "recreational" bike riders .

The public doesn't have anything to fear from "recreational" bike riders, however now that the media has said there might be a reason, there will be.

He said the laws were necessary to prevent Queensland becoming a safe haven for illegal road riding activities, and their scope would not be limited.

Great, so now the smurfs will have even more power to flex their muscles whenever they feel like it

"This is all about identifying criminal activity including speeding, drifting, burnouts and illegal modifications" Mr Roberts said.
"We intend to intorduce a range of measures, including the assignment of an extra 40 officers during April to "Operation Tonto" which would be targeting rear mudguard modification offences.

Can you say REVENUE RAISING, Maggie! Holy shit, look out, he's got a loaded modified hugger

Personally I think its a load of crap. It's certainly not going to stop me riding my bike or crapping on in the forums.

[DaBigfella]

So what is an illegal rear mudguard offence? I know you need to have indicators a minimum width apart but is that it? Or are fender elliminators and undertails or rear huggers no good either?

[Blurr]

the bike comes out with the huge rear mud guard which most of us immediately removed and placed a fender eliminator as the manufacturer intended..... << this is illegal

[DaBigfella]

Really? shit, my undertail is ready to go, not that i give a shit, if they defect it all you need to do is put orig back on and do the rta check, swap it right back yeah???

[MadKaw]

I think someone is having a lend (sorta like the person who added KSRC to the list of outlaw gangs... )

Heres the orig story.. Note, no mention of Forum riders..!! or stunters and bike drifters..


By Robyn Ironside
March 31, 2009 11:00pm

PROPOSED new laws targeting outlaw bikie groups will only catch "the slow and the stupid", according to a University of Queensland academic.

On Monday Premier Anna Bligh announced her Government would draft laws over the next few months to declare groups involved in criminal activity as "prescribed organisations" and make membership of such groups illegal.

The move was in response to concerns about escalating tensions between biker gangs which erupted into violence at Sydney Airport last month.

But criminal law expert Associate Professor Andreas Schloenhardt said the laws being considered by the Government were "counter-productive and potentially dangerous".

"Some people have said these anti-biker laws target only the slow and the stupid - people who are silly enough to wear badges that say 'I belong to a criminal group'," Professor Schloenhardt said.

"The real danger are people who may not even identify themselves as members but work more clandestinely and are probably a lot more responsible for the violence that comes with these groups."

Professor Schloenhardt said that similar laws introduced in Japan simply led to groups reforming under different names.

"Others will remove their insignia and other visible identifiers and move further underground, operate more clandestinely, and ultimately become more consolidated, violent, and powerful."

An attempt by the Opposition to introduce similar legislation in October 2007 was voted down by the government but yesterday Premier Bligh said the new draft laws "were better".

"There are a number of parts of the previous proposition that we believed were unworkable," she said.

At the time, then attorney-general Kerry Shine said strong penalties and laws already existed.

Professor Schloenhardt urged the State Government to wait for the conclusion later this year of a federal inquiry into legislative arrangements to outlaw serious and organised crime groups.

"It would be a silly waste of taxpayers' money to ignore this research," he said.

Yesterday Police Minister Neil Roberts moved to reassure recreational bike riders they had nothing to fear from proposed laws.

He said the laws were necessary to prevent Queensland becoming a safe haven for illegal activity, but their scope would be limited.

"This is all about identifying criminal activity," Mr Roberts said.

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Thanks Dave, I did quick search this arvo but gave up after 2 min

[Mike]

Linky or I call BS.