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Just put a set of the newest Dunny Roadsmarts aside to have fitted to the Rex tomorrow. I really just wanted to put the PR2's on again, but there are none around ATM and these are apparently the Dunflop Equivalent, with a triple rather than a Dual compound.... Oh how trick!!!! :lol: I'll keep you updated as to mileage and handling as I go. Reefton Spur is on Sunday, so it should be a good acid test for them! :shock: I'll certainly know by the time I get halfway up the spur if they grip OK or not! All reports in the media are either paid or favourable because they are good! Time will tell which is which! ;)
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You said the D word. I've sworn off them for life after having them on the 10!

Be interesting to see how these handle your punishment regime! :lol:
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They simply cant be as good... the wear rate of Dunlops in my experience is terrible.
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Strika wrote:Just put a set of the newest Dunny Roadsmarts aside to have fitted to the Rex tomorrow. I really just wanted to put the PR2's on again, but there are none around ATM and these are apparently the Dunflop Equivalent, with a triple rather than a Dual compound.... Oh how trick!!!! :lol: I'll keep you updated as to mileage and handling as I go. Reefton Spur is on Sunday, so it should be a good acid test for them! :shock: I'll certainly know by the time I get halfway up the spur if they grip OK or not! All reports in the media are either paid or favourable because they are good! Time will tell which is which! ;)
did you call Kon as he had a few pr2s the other day ;)
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Benno wrote:You said the D word. I've sworn off them for life after having them on the 10!...

If you're talking about the OEM tyres I couldn't agree more, they were absolute shite and have put me off Dunlops for a while, despite peoples good opinions of the Qualifiers :?
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z900/zx9 wrote: did you call Kon as he had a few pr2s the other day ;)
Mate, As good a bloke as Kon is, he is an hour away from me!!!! :lol: Maybe in an emergency, otherwise I'll stay local! ;) Are you on his fucking payroll Mal??? Fark you sprout off about him a lot. You're not having his love child by chance mate???? :lol:
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I'd run the current D208 Qualifier's on the 12 again *in a heartbeat*. They are a great tyre - nothing at all like the OEM dunlops.....the new Dunny Q's hang on, leave excellent 'big black darkies' - but do wear quickly (most tyres on the 12 wear quickly..... ;) )

...........but not the French Dunlops..........tried one of those last year, not much chop at all really, feedback was almost non-existant, the grip was OK but you never really got the *feel* of the tyre ???

PR2's ?? I thought you had a 2CT on the back of the SexLessRex ??

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No mate, I have been running Pilot Road 2's on the 9 and the 12. The same one you had fitted. They do have a 2CT logo on them, but they are called a pilot Road 2, not a 2CT. 2CT is what they refer to the one with the power centres and race comp edges. Just to clear things up for ya mate!!!! :lol:

As for life, Dunflop claim these are the equivalent of the PR2! With a Triple....hear that...triple compound as opposed to the Dual of the Michie!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Should make all the difference!!! :lol:
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If they can be believed.....it bodes well!!! 8)

Dunlop obviously has a huge amount of faith in this tyre because at the launch last week they lined-up the same bikes fitted with rubber from their closest two rivals to allow journalists what seemed to be a fair back-to-back test. On the high-speed handling circuit at Mireval the Roadsmarts were tried first, followed by the two rivals. Another nod to the performance of these tyres was the fact that Dunlop had a small fleet of Suzuki's banzai GSX-R750 for us to try this sports-touring biased tyre on.
The race-to-road ethos has moved things on in Dunlop's sports tyre range - with the GP Racer/Racer Slick and Qualifier all benefiting from Dunlop's racing success in BSB, AMA and the smaller GP categories. The Roadsmart is no exception and its performance on a track was such that you had to keep reminding yourself that this isn't a track tyre. Tyre warm-up is quick, thanks again to technology from the racier members of the Sportsmax family and stability under braking for some of Mireval's numerous chicanes doesn't have the bike dancing about at all. Turn-in is impressive, allied to confidence-inspiring stability when cranked over, mid-turn. In comparison both the Michelins and the Bridgestones didn't have that stability on the brakes that the Dunlops had, while the Michelins seemed to flop into corners a little disconcertingly (disconcerting after the Dunlops, but fine when tested alone it has to be said.) Meanwhile the Bridgestones would have a mild shimmy when in the middle of a corner - far, far from dangerous before you ask, but they simply moved about a little. All-in-all the Dunlops were superior on the high-speed track. Added to the performance was the fact that Dunlop reckon that Roadsmarts will last 5% more than the tyres they replace - the D220ST - but only a long-term test in the real-world will tell.
Either way the two-day test left us very impressed with the Roadsmarts these tyres are highly recommended.
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I got up a bit earlier this morning. It was still pitch black outside. Being Melbourne that must have been around 10.00am ;) ;) Nah, it wasn't 10.00 but it was well before 5.30!! I trundled out to the shed with the work Trackies and sloppy joe on. After popping the rex on the stands I started removing the front wheel first. As luck would have it, the big socket was the exact same size as a big snap on one I bought for another bike! Ripper.....only problem was, after turning the tool box upside down three times, I worked out that I have lent it to someone...and can't remember who!!!! :oops: :oops: (If anyone in here has it, could they let me know...it's kinda handy!!! :lol: ) Anyway, I thought fcuk fcuk fcuk!! Then I checked the factory tool kit...and Lo and behold...there was a tool that did the job in it!! Woohoo! Nothing fancy, but adequate for the job. :) I pulled the front wheel out and then started on the back. It's been ten or more years since I removed an axle with eccentric adjusters. So I studied it carefully for a few minutes before touching anything. It appeared to be simple enough. SO I did what I thought was the logical thing...and bugger me if it wasn't just simple! Removed circlip on left, unscrew axle. Pop off chain, caliper and spacers and out it rolls! Gotta be one of the simplist set-ups I've encountered.

I chucked the rims in the car and ran down to drop them off. I got talking, and eventually it was decided that I would change them myself. :x So, after another ten year hiatus from tyre changing machines, I got busy! The last machine I used was a three pedellar! This one had 1??? :? After mucking about without anything on it for a few minutes, I had it sussed. I removed the cores and broke the beads, then rear first, then the front, removed the old tyres and refitted the new ones. I then threw them on a static balancer (Bearing and axle) and balanced them up. The most being needed was 10gs thankfully. They were no less easy or hard to fit than any other tyre iv'e fitted, and they popped onto the bead positively as well.

I ran them home and refitted the wheels to the big girl. I could almost here her groaning with appreciation. (Yeah..it coulda been something else...but I'm not going into it in here :oops: ;) ) The front popped in easily, without me forgetting the speedo drive. (I havn't had a bike with a speedo drive for a while) Then the back went back in even easier than the front. Gotta be one of the fastest wheel change set ups apart from endurance racing stuff!!! Nice! :D

I then hopped on the bike to go scrub the new Roadsmarts in and see what they were like! The intention was to go catch Mal. But at the servo getting fuel, a client called needing something, so I had to change plans. I ran around to the Yarra Blvd, which was empty and after a sighting lap......started "testing" the new tyres feel, handling and grip. :twisted:

Here are my initial observations. The first lap I encountered water in a few of the turns. One in particular had water which you couldn't see due to the tightening radius, until you were on it. I think the tyres may not have been thoroughly scrubbed at this point as they both just let go. Thankfully the water was only 4 or 5 foot wide, so once both tyres were through, they just got back on with it. It put the wind up me a bit and initially didn't instill me with confidence. I put it down to unscrubbed rubber U turned and pinned it. Each turn I progressively leant the bike over further and further until it was edge to edge. I then U-turned and wicked it up another notch and ran back to the other end. Another U-turn immediately and I lifted it another notch for the last run. :twisted: I pulled up at Skyline to reflect on what they did and have a gander at them.

Front turn in is not as sharp as the Pilot. But I have not run a PR2 front yet, but rather have matched a Pilot Power front with a PR2 rear. So It is perhaps unfair to compare. On the flip side of that, the Roadsmart is not slow steering by any stretch of the imagination. It is just that initial turn in isn't as quick, but the Roadsmart does turn in completely progressively and is perhaps even a little better in terms of feel, feedback and bump absorption. I found it a lot more confidence inspiring when running the front in hard. The rear didn't put a foot wrong once scrubbed either. I didn't use a lot of throttle, more just turn speed and lean angle, so I havn't really taxed it yet. But with 42 Psi in it, the edges were balled up :shock: Like a race tyre...not like the PR2's which more sorta go orange peely. These had tiny little balls of rubber on the edge from four laps, two at near full lean. (It's only a couple of Klms each lap)

The centres are obviously a lot harder with no signs of wear compared to the sides.

On the way back, I came over the city link and tackled the Right hand sweeper off the Bolte and onto the WG with a great deal of "spirit" :lol: .As much "Spirit" as I have ever really used and they appeared to be rock solid.

Sunday will give me a better indication with a run up reefton to really sort them as potential or imposters! :lol:
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Sounds good mate. I'm just about to chuck a new set of rubber on the 10. I was considering either the Power CT2 or the new Pirelli Rosso thing. Might have to consider these as well...... unless of course you can do a back to back test of all three :D :D :D You could then be HCSC - Offiial tyre tester.
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Glen wrote:Sounds good mate. I'm just about to chuck a new set of rubber on the 10. I was considering either the Power CT2 or the new Pirelli Rosso thing. Might have to consider these as well...... unless of course you can do a back to back test of all three :D :D :D You could then be HCSC - Offiial tyre tester.
Yeah no worries mate, just send em down and I'll let you know the results! :lol:
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Strika wrote:
z900/zx9 wrote: did you call Kon as he had a few pr2s the other day ;)
Mate, As good a bloke as Kon is, he is an hour away from me!!!! :lol: Maybe in an emergency, otherwise I'll stay local! ;) Are you on his fucking payroll Mal??? Fark you sprout off about him a lot. You're not having his love child by chance mate???? :lol:
nope no love child here ,hes just a striaght up guy and looks after me and kazz pretty well ;) Well ya missed out today i seen 2 cars up reefton today although there was a little shit on the road it was pretty clean.So mission accomplished rear m3 shagged and new one fitted :D
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But with 42 Psi in it
Is this a ZX12 thing or do you really run that pressure? A lowside wil be coming your way if you push hard with those pressures as your contact patch will be miniscule.
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r1_forever wrote:
But with 42 Psi in it
Is this a ZX12 thing or do you really run that pressure? A lowside wil be coming your way if you push hard with those pressures as your contact patch will be miniscule.
I'm a big huge fat bastard and if I don't have that much pressure in them, they'll melt mate!! But i'll be sure to be really careful from now on! :lol:
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