Sneaky cops in SA...

[Daisy]

If you want to start introducing "let's teach people how to drive/ride properly schemes" then half of us are suddenly going to be without licences. No one likes to be told that they are a shit driver/rider, but most of us aren't really that flash. If you only want those people on the road that show they can meet a higher level of skill than is already required, then some of us are going to have to go.

The blokes I work with have a saying seems to get a fair bit of use at the RBT sites these days.

"And we share the road with these fuckwits!!"

Given that, what then happens to the elderly, single parents, people who work on the opposite side of town to wear they work?

Public transport.

As I've already said, the speed limits are set as a way of minimising harm.

And when some dumbarse drives off the side of a perfectly good road and into a river we lower the speed limit again. I resent that. There was nothing wrong with the road, or the 100k limit before. There is, however, a lot wrong with Tasmanian drivers. Most of them don't even know the road rules and they couldn't drive their finger up their own arse, but greed cameras don't prevent that - they are there to make money. If it was for 'safety' they'd be where the road is most dangerous - not where they can catch the most people.

[SnypR]

l think the only real question is why does the "we care about your safety" government still lets cars/bikes that are able to go over the speed limit on the roads?

2 litre diesels in every car

[javaman]

Speeding can be a risk-taking sport activity, but also a saftey investment.

For example. Who in the right mind would do exactly 70kph on 70khp zone ? You would be passed by irritated grannies, and not to mention p-platers with the loud speakers and notorious bike gangs

[Daisy]

I have no idea if I am really doing 70 anyway.
When I think I am, I get passed by the aforementioned grannies - I even got overtaken by a learner the other day - and if I go over the indicated speed I start worrying about where the greed camera might be...
I don't know about other states - I've only driven in Tas and Vic - but there is no reliable and easy way of knowing if your speedo is telling you the truth. At least Victoria has the speed readout on the overhead bridge. here you get a ticket 3 weeks later and you can't remember what speed you *thought* you were doing at the time.

[aardvark]

I have no idea if I am really doing 70 anyway.

Borrow someone's GPS and test your speedo with it.

Does it really matter if grannies and L platers are going passed? They're the ones that are contributing the the revenue.

[Lainie]

5k over = $250

Track day @220kph all day = $120

Do the math guys! Fun needs calculated risks.

If people choose to to make contributions towards that revenue, then good on them.

[Daisy]

I have no idea if I am really doing 70 anyway.

Borrow someone's GPS and test your speedo with it.

Does it really matter if grannies and L platers are going passed? They're the ones that are contributing the the revenue.

I don't know anyone with a GPS.
It matters that I don't know if someone else is speeding and I'm doing the right thing, or if my speedo is wrong and I could actually be going faster.
I don't know if you've ever driven in Tassie, but here it is almost mandatory to tailgate, because if you leave a gap some twat will fill it. As I said, they can't drive. I would prefer to have them behind me. A long way behind me. Or, better yet, off the road til they can drive properly.
Don't even get me started on my 80k learner limit - that has to be the most dangerous part of my riding experience.
I'm an advocate of driving with the natural traffic flow and to the road conditions, which goes against the arbitrary nature of speed limits that are set for the lowest common denominator.

[ozx6r]

not on topis but more on SA police
just found this

Police in South Australia are searching for a loaded gun lost during the arrest of a wanted man.
The Smith & Wesson revolver was dropped as officers chased a suspect through the Para Hills area of Adelaide on Wednesday.

A search of the area around Murrell Road, where the weapon is thought to have fallen from a plain clothes detective's holster, failed to turn up the gun.

Further searches of a gully area between Murrell Road and Billabong Road, by police and SES volunteers, are continuing.

Officers have appealed for the safe return of the revolver, a silver five-shot Model 60 with a black hand grip.

They have urged anyone who finds it not to touch the gun, but to call police immediately.

[Gosling1]

I'm pretty sure its already up on e-bay ??

[rocco]

for the record i appreciate speed cameras...they are here for 2 reasons.


1- to mke money for the government

2- to hopefully stop speeding hoons.



my argument is the way in which these cameras are used in extremely deceptive ways.

There are rules of fair game whether u think so or not. this is why we dont blow each other up in one great swoop in war. because there are rules of engagment.


But hiding cameras in bins, side rails on roads........take it a bit too far.


soon they will put them in dead roos on the side of the road and garden gnomes in residential areas.


As i said ...........wanna make your money????........WORK FOR IT!!!!!!


WE DO

unfortunately there isnt much point in bringing up these issues with the law as it is unfortunately biased towards itself whether its right or wrong.


NO WIN SITUATION ALWAYS

[diesel]

i'm with ardvark in the sense that,
the only way to eliminate getting caught speeding is too simply not do it. 100% of the time.

however, i don't think that speed is the cause of as many accidents as government reports would like to think.

consider this example for a moment,

A man is driving down a straight road travelling at 68kmph, looks at the clock on his radio briefly and when he looks back at the road a child has ran out after a cricket ball and he kills the child.
What would happen if the posted limit was 70?
What would happen if the posted limit was 60?

[ross79]

I have no problem with speed limits in built up or urban areas, but the long empty roads of which there are plenty around Australia can safely have a speed limit of at least 130!
Fatigue is a factor often overlooked. Driving / riding long distance you get tired more so at the ridiculous 100km/h speed limits then if you were to travel at 130 or faster, as you have to tend to concentrate more at higher speeds. Speed doesn't kill it's the dickhead behind the wheel!!
Sure you can take a power nap but how many people actually do that? I've tried it and whenever I pull over I can't fall asleep so I keep on driving. I can hear the arguments to better plan your trip etc...

[rocco]

i agree....speed is dangerous and i dont support it.


i have been charged for speeding and accepted the charge without complaining. We all do wrong and we must al accept the final results of those wrong doings.

The issue here is that placing speed cameras on roads hidden from view is like shooting fish in a barrel. The problem is that the gov know we will speed. Several reasons:

1- they know we are human and will fail at some stage, this is life.

2- They still allow the manufacture of motor vehicles/motorcycles with the performance and speed capabilites that far out weigh the law and road conditions we are expected to live with.

3- At the end of the day the wheel of life turns, they let the high speed cars and bikes continue to be manufactured knowing quite well people WILL speed and people will die. This pays for the schools and the rest that was mentioned. Hang on what pays for them???? the lies and greed that the powers that be have to allow things like those mentioned in point 2. to occur.


Wanna stop car accidents = speed limit all business and domestic vehicles, dunno bout you guys but the fastest i think my car is allowed to go is 110km/h......but hangon...holden gave me one with 260km on the speedo...where will i ever use this speed?

wanna stop murders? = stop manufacturing guns. I dont need one....do you?

The wheel always and will always keep turning forever.......this is the corruption that is society.



Stay safe and be carefull....there is camera in the golden arches too......that farkin clown....knew he was trouble.

[Gosling1]

....there are plenty around Australia can safely have a speed limit of at least 130!.....

Interesting that you should choose 130kmh...........a friend of mine who used to work for the NSW Roads & Traffic authority, told me many years ago that in NSW at least, the 4-lane Hume between Canberra and Sydney was actually designed and built for a safe travelling speed of .........130kmh.

My own experience of travelling on this road is that almost *nobody* travels at the posted limit of 110kmh, except for the speed 'limited' trucks , and pensioners in Volvos . To drive at 100 is taking your life into your own hands.

Most punters drive between 115-130kmh, and get to their destination safely. The sad reality with speeding is that when you do it day in and day out for years and years, the message that 'Speed Kills' is just a nonsense. If speed killed, Australia's adult male population would be a mere fraction of what it actually is.

There can be no doubt that an 'accident' while travelling over the posted limit may kill you. It also may not. An accident while travelling at under the posted limit may kill you. It also may not. One of my close mates in Qld died on his motorcycle while executing a U-turn, he overbalanced, fell awkwardly, and broke his neck. Speed is not the only factor in accidents, in fact its mainly lack of proper driver training, unsafe vehicles, and poorly maintained roads that contribute the most to the road toll.

[rocco]

well said