500km Oil Change?

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:34 pm

tanyathecheeky wrote:Semi, it's what they use in 90% of the bikes

are you sure ? I went out to the shed to check my top-up bottle of Motul 5100, and it says Full Synthetic ??

ttc · Post by **ttc** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:40 pm

i googled and it said semi

http://www.motul.com.au/product_line_up ... oke13.html

Neilp · Post by **Neilp** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:21 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
Neilp wrote:The servicing dept will put synthetic oil in your bike at the first oil change, if the rings arent bedded in by the 1000 k service they arent going to.

Neil
well, no they won't. Any dealer that did that to a new motor would be a total prick.

Its not just a matter of the rings bedding in, its the entire motor/gearbox that needs to be considered. The rings are just a small (though important) part of the bigger picture. The gearbox certainly won't have 'bedded-in' by the first service at 1000km.........

I got some advice about my 12 (well after it was needed ), by a bloke who has owned quite a few new bikes over the years......

His advice was - Ride the bike home from the dealer, and *Immediately* dump the original oil and filter, replace with new filter and same oil that dealer will use at first service (1000km).

Ride 3-400km, then dump this oil, and replace as above.

Then take bike into dealer for its *first* service......all the above advice assumes that you intend to keep your new bike for some considerable time, not just until upgrade time, in which case do everything as cheaply as possible........

Gos check with most Workshop managers and they will confirm that at first oil change they use a synthetic based oil.

Neil

hammer · Post by **hammer** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:33 am

Gosling1 wrote:
tanyathecheeky wrote:Semi, it's what they use in 90% of the bikes
are you sure ? I went out to the shed to check my top-up bottle of Motul 5100, and it says Full Synthetic ??

Yeah it is only semi but motul like you to think its full

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:36 pm

hammer wrote:
Gosling1 wrote:
tanyathecheeky wrote:Semi, it's what they use in 90% of the bikes
are you sure ? I went out to the shed to check my top-up bottle of Motul 5100, and it says Full Synthetic ??

Yeah it is only semi but motul like you to think its full

hmmm. tricky bastards........and all this time I thought it was fully synth....

....check with most Workshop managers and they will confirm that at first oil change they use a synthetic based oil.

I will check that tomorrow. I am *100%* sure that they didn't go to a semi-synth until the 6k service.....

hammer · Post by **hammer** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:00 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
hammer wrote:
Gosling1 wrote: are you sure ? I went out to the shed to check my top-up bottle of Motul 5100, and it says Full Synthetic ??

Yeah it is only semi but motul like you to think its full
hmmm. tricky bastards........and all this time I thought it was fully synth....

....check with most Workshop managers and they will confirm that at first oil change they use a synthetic based oil.
I will check that tomorrow. I am *100%* sure that they didn't go to a semi-synth until the 6k service.....

Come on gos the price should have told ya it wasn`t mate and yeah when I had my 12 it was 6k till desent oil.

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:53 pm

Neilp wrote:The servicing dept will put synthetic oil in your bike at the first oil change, if the rings arent bedded in by the 1000 k service they arent going to.

Neil

not in my bike they wouldnt!!

i was always told...
mineral til 6k minimum...
semi til 12k
after 12k put what u like...

my local dealer use to wait til i got there until he put the oil in it...cos if he didnt i wouldnt pay....

when i got my bike done last time i gave em the 5100 Motul (off the shelf) to put in it..when i went to pick it up they hadnt charged me for it...i demanded they drop the shell oil out of it then and there , and put my motul in it.... which they promptly did after i called the owner....