I complained about NSW Greenslips but.....

jpbikeboy · Post by **jpbikeboy** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:49 pm

I thought that NSW was shit because of my bullshit greenslip but, i just received a speeding fine from VIC, 105km/h in a 100 zone. Thats crap!! Anyone got out of one of these?

MrStompy · Post by **MrStompy** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:11 pm

did you get a picture with the fine?

if so if there is any other vehicles in the picture you might be able to get out of it.

i know people were using that argument in NSW, not sure if it would work in Vic.

that sure is harsh though - 105 in a 100....
you only need to blink and your speed will jump 5 kph.

Smitty · Post by **Smitty** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:13 pm

MrStompy wrote:did you get a picture with the fine?

if so if there is any other vehicles in the picture you might be able to get out of it.

i know people were using that argument in NSW, not sure if it would work in Vic.

that sure is harsh though - 105 in a 100....
you only need to blink and your speed will jump 5 kph.

if there are other vehicles..yep a get out of jail/fine here in Vic

but you have to remember...105 = 108
(3kmh deducted for accuracy)

who was a norty boy then..?

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:05 pm

Its a load of frogshit, thats what it is. Fight it all the way. There is a bloke in Melbourne who succesfully fought a similiar speeding fine, on the basis that the manufacturer of his vehicle advised of a 5% error in speedometer readings, and that, combined with incorrectly-sized tyres, could result in a speedo error of up to 8%.

This makes the 5% *tolerance* laughable. If you do a Google search for speeding fines, you should find his website - one of the other members may already know about it ??? This story was on the box only a couple of weeks ago.

Don't accept this fine. It has *nothing* to do with safety whatsoever. Its just crap

hoffy · Post by **hoffy** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:19 pm

Gosling1 wrote:Its a load of frogshit, thats what it is. Fight it all the way. There is a bloke in Melbourne who succesfully fought a similiar speeding fine, on the basis that the manufacturer of his vehicle advised of a 5% error in speedometer readings, and that, combined with incorrectly-sized tyres, could result in a speedo error of up to 8%.

This makes the 5% *tolerance* laughable. If you do a Google search for speeding fines, you should find his website - one of the other members may already know about it ??? This story was on the box only a couple of weeks ago.

Don't accept this fine. It has *nothing* to do with safety whatsoever. Its just crap

Yeah, point taken, but frog's dont shit do they, I think they only wee ?

I have to agree, you should definitely send a letter, 5k's is negligable IMO, gee.. they must have lowered the standards for issueing these tickets, typical of their greed for revenue.

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Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:38 pm

ok..i thought AS meant it could be up to 10% wrong and pass the test to be honest...

and as said here abt 12 times..i got 2 fines riding to the gp a few yrs back,....

64 in 60 zone
65 in 60 zone

BOTH had 6 bikes in pic, and both i ended up paying- it was cheaper than the flight to Vic to contest...

sneakypete · Post by **sneakypete** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:39 pm

i thought there was a 10% allowance for instument error.

i am pretty sure it was on another thread on here within the last 6 months and someone put up a weblink to the rules regarding faulty speedometer allowances for sppedig fines...

i will try and have a look and see if i can find it. unless someone else remembers....

by the way, i think its absolute bullshit about the fine!!!!

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:05 pm

Neka79 wrote:..i thought AS meant it could be up to 10% wrong and pass the test to be honest......

No, you are dead right ! and that is the problem. Its farcical to have a 10% standard for car manufacturers, and then a 5% tolerance enforced by the law

and they still reckon its not revenue raising, god almighty they build revenue raising into the law by enforcing a 5% tolerance !!!!

this issue pisses me off so much, and its been 12 years since I got done at Tootgarook in the middle of Xmas holidays for 64 in a 60, in the middle of peak season holiday traffic

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:21 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
Neka79 wrote:..i thought AS meant it could be up to 10% wrong and pass the test to be honest......
No, you are dead right ! and that is the problem. Its farcical to have a 10% standard for car manufacturers, and then a 5% tolerance enforced by the law and they still reckon its not revenue raising, god almighty they build revenue raising into the law by enforcing a 5% tolerance !!!!

this issue pisses me off so much, and its been 12 years since I got done at Tootgarook in the middle of Xmas holidays for 64 in a 60, in the middle of peak season holiday traffic

there was an old coot on ACA or TT the other month fighting it..mind u he had a good clean record (i dont)...but its still makes no sense...
the rules need to be clarified...

Gosling1 · Post by **Gosling1** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:35 pm

Neka79 wrote:....there was an old coot on ACA or TT the other month fighting it..mind u he had a good clean record (i dont)...but its still makes no sense....the rules need to be clarified...

that was probably the same bloke I saw - he fought the Law and He won, and has set up a website to assist other motorists, who also feel like they have been bunted up the shitter by this ridiculous situation.

I just can't recall the name of his website...

He was a clever old bastard.

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:25 pm

Gosling1 wrote:
Neka79 wrote:....there was an old coot on ACA or TT the other month fighting it..mind u he had a good clean record (i dont)...but its still makes no sense....the rules need to be clarified...
that was probably the same bloke I saw - he fought the Law and He won, and has set up a website to assist other motorists, who also feel like they have been bunted up the shitter by this ridiculous situation.

I just can't recall the name of his website... He was a clever old bastard.

yea that was the one...now if i could remember if it was ACA or TT we could email them....hmm....

i dont understand (he voiced this) how a federal requirement can allow for 10% but a state govt can fine for only 5%...

BladeBoy · Post by **BladeBoy** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:52 am

jpbikeboy wrote:I thought that NSW was shit because of my bullshit greenslip but, i just received a speeding fine from VIC, 105km/h in a 100 zone. Thats crap!! Anyone got out of one of these?

How much was the fine? and do you have the points to cover it?

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:16 am

http://www.fightfines.info/

Here's a website with some interesting propaganda!!!!

z900/zx9 · Post by **z900/zx9** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:18 am

Yep about 50 percent of vics have had this sort of fine maybe more,yeah it sucks.Livivng in sydney its probably more of a pain to fight it as you would have to appear and at least have a gps test on your speedo and a clean record to get out of it

The opposition has said it will reinstate 10% tollerance back but its probably bullshit and they probably wont win anyway

And yes BRACKS is a PRICK

Stereo · Post by **Stereo** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:15 am

I have my third ticket of less than 8km over the speed limit in 1 year......

I am losing my license 1 point at a time...

If it happens again, its ridiculous.... All you need is for some truck to start indicating into your lane while you have some V8 sitting right on your tail, you get out of the way *flash*...

Im considering asking for a photo of the last one (havent paid it yet) because I remember going through that camera and looking at my speedo, I didnt think I was speeding.....

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