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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby Smitty » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:13 pm

mrmina wrote:since when have we had undercover cop bikes in vic

mina
unmarked bikes have been in Vic since about 2000
there was a lot of press at the time...
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Postby mrmina » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:46 pm

WOW didnt know anything about it. i just thought they rode the beamers and thats it.
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby Smitty » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:29 pm

mrmina wrote:WOW didnt know anything about it. i just thought they rode the beamers and thats it.


bimmers..yep and there is (was) a 916 Ducati
no markings (and hidden lights and siren)
BUT the rider is in Police blue leathers

you obviously did not see the one at Reefton on the ride...


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Postby zbeast » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:03 pm

I saw an R1 in Yagoona a while back. The bloke riding was in regular leathers and wearing a backpack. The giveaways were the magnetic aerial base on the pillion seat (don't know how they attached it) and the fully marked BMW following not far brhind him. I thought they probably used the R1 to egg blokes on at the lights then have the Bimmer pull them down the road. Could that be entrapment :?:
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby mrmina » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:14 am

Smitty wrote:you obviously did not see the one at Reefton on the ride...


sorry mate was too busy riding :P
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby aardvark » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:41 am

zbeast wrote:Could that be entrapment :?:


You could call it that, but since Australia doesn't have laws regarding the use of entrapment by Police, what are you going to do about it?
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby Smitty » Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:23 am

mrmina wrote:
Smitty wrote:you obviously did not see the one at Reefton on the ride...


sorry mate was too busy riding :P


ohoh

I feel a ticket coming on......

you no watch out for other bikes....and cars?????? :lol:
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby Jonno » Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:50 am

aardvark wrote:
zbeast wrote:Could that be entrapment :?:


You could call it that, but since Australia doesn't have laws regarding the use of entrapment by Police, what are you going to do about it?


Handy having you around to clear up such matters. :wink:
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby zbeast » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:44 am

aardvark wrote:
zbeast wrote:Could that be entrapment :?:


You could call it that, but since Australia doesn't have laws regarding the use of entrapment by Police, what are you going to do about it?


Then its a case of finding a high profile lawyer (notice I didn't say a good lawyer because there aren't any) and take it to court.
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby aardvark » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:14 pm

zbeast wrote:
Then its a case of finding a high profile lawyer (notice I didn't say a good lawyer because there aren't any) and take it to court.


If I were you, i'd spend the money on a cheap shitty lawyer, at least that way, when you blow your money, you wont lose as much! :lol:
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby Jonno » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:19 pm

Then its a case of finding a high profile lawyer (notice I didn't say a good lawyer because there aren't any) and take it to court.


Yep, in my experience the more you pay the more you get away with, it should't be like that but it is. 8)
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Postby Ment » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:58 pm

Jase, isnt it up to the judges discretion?
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Postby Jonno » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:14 pm

Judges are solicitors who are voted to the bench by their peers, they havta drink and dine with their fellow associates so find a solicitor or barrister who dines with them and ya all right.
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby aardvark » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:34 pm

Ment wrote:Jase, isnt it up to the judges discretion?


OK, here's the deal. (And I am speaking solely from a traffic offence point of view!)

1) We do not have entrapment laws.
2) Traffic offences are what we refer to as absolute offences. There is NO excuse for committing them. (There are exception but I wont go into that.)
3) To disprove you comitted a traffic offence would requie a lot of work on your behalf. You'd need several independant witnesses. Generally, the court will take the coppers evidence as fact.
4) Police are exempt from nerly all traffic offences under Section 305 of the ARR.

I'm not saying don't fight it... i'm just suggesting that you might be blowing your money. :lol:
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Re: re: undercover sportsbikes....

Postby mrmina » Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:36 am

Smitty wrote:
ohoh

I feel a ticket coming on......

you no watch out for other bikes....and cars?????? :lol:


i'll try
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