ZZR-11 choke starting question

ZZR 250, 600, 1100 & 1200

ZZR-11 choke starting question

Postby chameleon » Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:36 pm

I can't seem to get the bike to warm up under 2500 RPM? It starts on choke fine, runs at about 1500 or less for the first 10 seconds and then the engine races up. If I try to back the choke of it dies, no matter how tweeky I get with it. The only thing I can do is have half choke and bump the throttle a little which is a pain as it takes about 2 mintes before it's warm enough to idle on it's own.
Image
chameleon
KSRC Regular
KSRC Regular
 
Posts: 763
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Briso

Postby hoffy » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:01 pm

does it idle normal after 2 minutes?
hoffy
Team Barge
Team Barge
 
Posts: 8744
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:59 am
Bike: Z1000
State: New South Wales

Postby mike-s » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:49 am

If it wont hold the idle at all, it could be an airleak near the manifolds.

Way to test for it is get it semi warmed up, then spray WD40 / Aerostart around the manifolds, if the revs have a further rise, then the manifold boot isnt done up tightly enough, OR you're the proud owner of a leaky boot. Best option is to replace it, but dodgy bastards have been known to find the leak and pump it full of silastic.
Image
If it hurts, you aren't doing it right.
User avatar
mike-s
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
 
Posts: 6142
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Arncliffe, Sydney
Bike: Suzuki
State: New South Wales

Postby chameleon » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:10 pm

yes it idles nicely after it's warmed up, I can have it as low as 400 if I wanted but I keep it set around 1200rpm.
Image
chameleon
KSRC Regular
KSRC Regular
 
Posts: 763
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Briso

Postby Gosling1 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:17 pm

just a maybe.......try lubing the inside of the choke assembly, and the cable as well........it *might* be binding a little ??

8)
".....shut the gate on this one Maxie......it's the ducks guts !!............."
User avatar
Gosling1
Team Donut
Team Donut
 
Posts: 13823
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:30 pm
Location: Anarchy Road
Bike: Z900
State: ACT

Postby chameleon » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:49 am

do you mean the assembly up on the handlebar Goz? Yes, I havent done that I must admit. I got a can of moto whatever spray lube for cables and a trusty "cable-lubricator" I'll pull it off tonight and oil up the surfaces in there. Should I spray a load in between the carbs where the cable ends too? * a load of lube that is * 8)
Image
chameleon
KSRC Regular
KSRC Regular
 
Posts: 763
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Briso

Postby Gosling1 » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:25 pm

chameleon wrote:do you mean the assembly up on the handlebar Goz? Yes, I havent done that I must admit. I got a can of moto whatever spray lube for cables and a trusty "cable-lubricator" I'll pull it off tonight and oil up the surfaces in there. Should I spray a load in between the carbs where the cable ends too? * a load of lube that is * 8)


:lol: Yes mate, give the assembly on the h/bar a good spray, down the cable with the "cable-lube" jobby, and it probably wouldn't hurt to do the bit at the carbie end as well...........at least if all these are done, you can discount 'cable-binding' as a possible cause of the problem.

As the bike holds a nice idle when warmed up, you can *almost* discount the manifold rubbers as a source of a possible air-leak. You should do a quick check on the clamps on each manifold though, just to make sure they are all nipped up tight.

8)
".....shut the gate on this one Maxie......it's the ducks guts !!............."
User avatar
Gosling1
Team Donut
Team Donut
 
Posts: 13823
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:30 pm
Location: Anarchy Road
Bike: Z900
State: ACT

Postby chameleon » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:29 pm

Well I got an oil change saterday, putting in the motol synth, so When I have the covers off I'll pull the tank and the airbox and give it all a suss over. My throttle is still giving me a little trouble because when I take all the slack out of it it sticks at right lock? Gotta be a twist in the cables mabe but perhaps the rod that links all the carbs nees a spray of lube too? I'll get the thing tweeked right eventually :roll:

UPDATE!
Apparently its normal for the bike to falter under 3000 rpm when on the choke. So I should not expect it to warm up at a low rpm. Hmmm. I just wanted it to warm up low cause warm up is where you have to take the most care, before the oil has fully circulated.. :(
Image
chameleon
KSRC Regular
KSRC Regular
 
Posts: 763
Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Briso


Return to ZZR Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests