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Fuel Tax Drop
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:38 am
by Saki
Watching the news yesturday i saw the story a few times..
I am not 100% on all the facts. But they where talking about droppin the 38c tax off the price of fuel.. which would drop it to around $1.10.
What are your thoughts!
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:06 am
by Johnnie5
forget it , it just will not happen
they might drop it a little bit but there is no way in hell the gov is just going to knock off 38c tax per litre
more likely they will drop a few cents and then jack up cigs and grog tax to cover it
there is just way too much income to the gov from taxs such as these
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:22 am
by mick_dundee
Enough with the price of petrol already, yeah it's not as cheap as it used to be but it's still shitloads cheaper than most other countries and for the motorbike rally if they drop it 5 cents a litre say you'll save $1 everytime you fill up give or take a bit, is that really going to make such a massive difference?
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:56 am
by chuffed
Johnnie5 wrote:forget it , it just will not happen
they might drop it a little bit but there is no way in hell the gov is just going to knock off 38c tax per litre
more likely they will drop a few cents and then jack up cigs and grog tax to cover it
Saw this morning on the news that beer/wine and spirits tax will be increased.....
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:02 am
by Johnnie5
chuffed wrote:Johnnie5 wrote:forget it , it just will not happen
they might drop it a little bit but there is no way in hell the gov is just going to knock off 38c tax per litre
more likely they will drop a few cents and then jack up cigs and grog tax to cover it
Saw this morning on the news that beer/wine and spirits tax will be increased.....
well it does go up every 6-12 months anyway
but exactly that , if the gov drops some money on fuel then its gotta come from somewhere to balance it all out and grog/cigs are the usual one
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:35 am
by hidepenny
but exactly that , if the gov drops some money on fuel then its gotta come from somewhere to balance it all out and grog/cigs are the usual one
are they trying to encourage ppl to get off from smoking and drinking?
so only the non-smokers and non-drinkers benefit from it?
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:45 am
by Johnnie5
hidepenny wrote:but exactly that , if the gov drops some money on fuel then its gotta come from somewhere to balance it all out and grog/cigs are the usual one
are they trying to encourage ppl to get off from smoking and drinking?
so only the non-smokers and non-drinkers benefit from it?
would anyone like to take a guess what is going to happen when
there is no smoking everywhere
when the tax on cigs goes up enough that enough people stop smoking as they cant afford it anymore
where is the gov gonna get money from ?
my guess a part of it is going to come from motorvehicles in 1 way or another
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:37 pm
by Colette
As much as I'd love to believe it will happen, past experience tells me that prices always go up, but they never drop them back down
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:19 pm
by mike-s
Precisely, somehow the 78c/litre days are long gone.
Hell i remember when my parents were ghastly shocked that petrol bumped up over 70c/litre. I'm sure ponti & ron remember when it was tuppence/gallon
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:08 pm
by mick_dundee
Johnnie5 wrote:when the tax on cigs goes up enough that enough people stop smoking as they cant afford it anymore
Every federal budget you can back Johnny Howards left nut that smokes and booze taxes will increase, EVERY year, it's not odds on it's unbackable, deal with it
As for the tax they raise on cogs, sure they get shitloads but I would honestrly like to see it compared with the costs associated with smoking by a non aligned org of some sorts. The health costs, the cost to the encvironment, the cost of emplying peopkle to pick up cigarette butts etc, dunno if it can be quantified but would make for bloody interesting comparisons I reckon.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:23 pm
by mohawk miss
My beef with fuel prices is the fact that the GST was not supposed to apply to goods with another tax component in the price.
So now I have to pay a gst on the excise portion of my fuel cost. This is a joke.
Miserable sods
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:40 pm
by SenNey
The tax on fuel is rediculous.
People need fuel to get to and from work, errands, groceries etc.
Public transport can be used at times, but it's not always convient for all.
Nor is it clean, run on time or cheap.
But drinking and smoking people choose to do.
A friend of ours always complains he is broke, yet can buy his two slabs of beer and carton of smokes a week!
Signed a non drinker or smoker.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:52 pm
by mrmina
well fuel is taxed pretty heavily. It has both local and federal tax slapped onto it.
It can reach a low, but the government will need to get the money from else where. Maybe income taxes or rates or something.
Just like newtons law:
"where there is an action, there is an equal and opposing reaction"
If they give u money back on petrol, they'll get it else where
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:38 pm
by mick_dundee
mrmina wrote:Just like newtons law:
"where there is an action, there is an equal and opposing reaction"
If they give u money back on petrol, they'll get it else where
Far canal Mina that's a bit deep for you isn't it? Who's stolen your computer??
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:41 pm
by mick_dundee
mohawk miss wrote:My beef with fuel prices is the fact that the GST was not supposed to apply to goods with another tax component in the price.
So now I have to pay a gst on the excise portion of my fuel cost. This is a joke.
Miserable sods
I'd be happy to stand correced but I am reasonmably sure we pay GST on Stamp Duty in our car/bike rego too, quite possibly on housing too...