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Which mining tax? The one imposed on those super-corporations that rip out our resources, ship them overseas, make mega $$$, then ship that money offshore as well? Those ones? Yeah, how dare we tax them. How dare we keep a share of the profits made from our resources

Bottom line is - the tax is on the SUPER profits. The Billions of dollars. BP showed a 26 billion dollar gross profit in their 2009 annual report. The tax means that a bit of that stays within the Australian economy. Building roads, infrastructure etc. How that can be a bad thing is beyond me...

i thought we werent allowed to talk politics on this forum? wheres Madkaw

Not sure about about a ranga PM. Can we call her Fanta Pants yet? Too soon?

Has anyone else noticed that the mining tax adverts have pretty much been pulled by both sides at the moment?

kevindinho wrote:i thought we werent allowed to talk politics on this forum? wheres Madkaw

probably sitting back having a laugh, until just before it explodes..............

So Joooolya is playing for the Western Bulldogs this week?

Jonno wrote:So Joooolya is playing for the Western Bulldogs this week?

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kevindinho wrote:i thought we werent allowed to talk politics on this forum? wheres Madkaw

As long as it doesn't get personal..

There's a lot of ppl on here who know SFA all about bikes that like to tell ppl whats right and wrong so why should politics be any different...

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100.
If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this;

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1
The sixth would pay $3
The seventh would pay $7
The eighth would pay $12
The ninth would pay $18
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do..

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.
"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.
So the first four men were unaffected.
They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers?

How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realised that $20 divided by six is $3.33.
But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).
Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

"I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving," declared the sixth man.
He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!"
"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"
"That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"
"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works.

The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction..

Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.

In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

MadKaw wrote:

kevindinho wrote:i thought we werent allowed to talk politics on this forum? wheres Madkaw

As long as it doesn't get personal..

There's a lot of ppl on here who know SFA all about bikes that like to tell ppl whats right and wrong so why should politics be any different...

Ha Ha Billy the kid was wrong This is the comment of th etopic so far.

the kid wrote:So what you are saying is , you would have to be blind or you would never yet it up ??

Thats generally the case

As for all the politics on here less more

or if your gonna have an opinion more of this

MadKaw wrote:

kevindinho wrote:i thought we werent allowed to talk politics on this forum? wheres Madkaw

As long as it doesn't get personal..

There's a lot of ppl on here who know SFA all about bikes that like to tell ppl whats right and wrong so why should politics be any different...

the boss-man, has his way with words ........... have you ever thought of politics Dave ?

Naked Twin wrote:
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

Last I checked we're still not a part of the USA

Reedy wrote:kinda felt bad..who the fuck is pinchy

im pinchy... no need to delete pms dude, i can take shit... its pretty much my job round here...

tomtom wrote:

Naked Twin wrote:
David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics.

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

Last I checked we're still not a part of the USA

Well that depends on how you look at it -

Most of our TV programs that are not locally produced are from the US, many of our own reality shows are being used under US agreement. Most of the fast food chains are from the US, we have a litigation attitude much like the US where we sue everyone for falling over, we concern ourselves with US currency even though most our export trade is other currency. Much of our military hardware is purchased from the US even though there are better systems/ suppliers out there. We were close to having a referendum so that we could go to a US style system of parliament. We are heavily influenced by them, even though we are not part of them

I thought it was a good analogy though.

Nick