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aus636 wrote:Yeh see it all the time I just get in front and out of the way or hang back there is no in between.

corvus2606 wrote:the sharp spring loaded centre punches do a good number on any glass too.

all you need to do is push, and when it does the punch, bye bye window, spectacularly all over their lap.

can be done on the run too, only takes half a second

Strika wrote:

Glen wrote:Now seriously when was the last time anyone kicked a mirror off???? I presume it was the last time a HZ Holden cut you off because that's probably one of the last cars that didn't have folding mirrors

Live and let live, everyone fucks up sometime. Ride defensively and they won't get you anyway. It aint that hard

Glen...Grasshopper....allow me to enlighten you! Modern day mirrors are actually a far more effective target for damage than the mirrors of old.....ala HZ Kingswood as the example you offfered. You, see, you very obviously have very little experience with mirror relocation and thus should refrain from making comments which are baseless! Please allow me to share some information with you which may throw a different light on the subject. Modern mirrors for the most part are spring loaded to return to the original position. A small alteration to it's seated position accompanied by a variation in speed of the intersecting vehicles, allows quite a deal of kinetic energy to be released back into the mirror, thus causing the mirror to shatter into a million pieces. Again, some modern mirrors just have a small slot into which they are seated to retain position, however, once again, the wing or fixtures are usually quite fragile and again, a speed differential of the two intersecting vehicles can cause the actual stalk or mount to fail, thus destalking the mirror. It's all about how it's performed Glen, not the type of mirror being addressed. I hope this assists with any future decisions you may make in traffic Glen .

robracer wrote:

corvus2606 wrote:the sharp spring loaded centre punches do a good number on any glass too.

all you need to do is push, and when it does the punch, bye bye window, spectacularly all over their lap.

can be done on the run too, only takes half a second

That sounds like fun, you got a pic of one?...... never heard of them

Glen wrote:

Strika wrote:

Glen wrote:Now seriously when was the last time anyone kicked a mirror off???? I presume it was the last time a HZ Holden cut you off because that's probably one of the last cars that didn't have folding mirrors

Live and let live, everyone fucks up sometime. Ride defensively and they won't get you anyway. It aint that hard

Glen...Grasshopper....allow me to enlighten you! Modern day mirrors are actually a far more effective target for damage than the mirrors of old.....ala HZ Kingswood as the example you offfered. You, see, you very obviously have very little experience with mirror relocation and thus should refrain from making comments which are baseless! Please allow me to share some information with you which may throw a different light on the subject. Modern mirrors for the most part are spring loaded to return to the original position. A small alteration to it's seated position accompanied by a variation in speed of the intersecting vehicles, allows quite a deal of kinetic energy to be released back into the mirror, thus causing the mirror to shatter into a million pieces. Again, some modern mirrors just have a small slot into which they are seated to retain position, however, once again, the wing or fixtures are usually quite fragile and again, a speed differential of the two intersecting vehicles can cause the actual stalk or mount to fail, thus destalking the mirror. It's all about how it's performed Glen, not the type of mirror being addressed. I hope this assists with any future decisions you may make in traffic Glen .

Ahh so when my wifes parked Pulsar got it's mirror clipped by a bus and the mirror simply sprung back on it's stalk without breaking, that was less force than can be exerted by the average enraged motorcyclist.....oh hang on, that's right we're all above average motorcyclists who never crash or do anything that would endager anyone else......now I get it, how foolish do I feel

ZXR750 wrote:Sorry Glen but logic and common sense does not seem to have a place in this thread.
I would like to know how safe it would be to get close enough to the car to attack the mirror. Wouldn't hitting the mirror knock you off balance and possibly into said car or an on coming vehicle???

robracer wrote: If you have ever clipped a mirror accidentally whilst lane splitting ............. its embarrassing even though it was non intentional, both times I had a sinking guilty feeling