Whats up with Shell and the stupid new names ??

[daffy67]

Ethanol is grain alcohol, a by product from sugar refining somewhere along the line. A lot of sugar can growing and milling in Sth America so over 20 years ago they decided to rely less on imported oil and now you can buy cars there that run all 3 types of fuel.
In fact it's law for car makers there to provide ethanol compliant motors, we could do more here on that line as our sugar industry (like many others) is dying.


My owner manual VFR 800 states i can use the 5% blend but no higher.

[BladeBoy]

Actually it 1947
http://world.honda.com/timeline/motor/

and Worldwide motorcycle production reaches 150 million units.

KAWASAKI MOTORCYCLE HISTORY

Kawasaki's first motorcycle in the 1960 was a 125cc two stroke Kawasaki motorcycle. Kawasaki motorcycle history started their high end powerful rigs by acquiring Meguro motorcycles which was oldest motorcycle company in Japan. Kawasaki motorcycle history rolled out its first big motorcycle which sported a 650 cc engine and was called model W1.

Kawasaki actually faulted with its first release W1 for the simple reason that the competitors had better and faster bikes. So Kawasaki proceeded to create lighter motorcycles which were A1 Samurai with 250cc engine powering it and the A7 avenger powered by 350cc engine.

[ZXR750]

actually honda started in 1948. Kawasaki started making bikes in 1949.

however, Kawasaki was making planes in 1924.


So technically, Kawasaki was around before honda.

But back to the point, since when has honda made motorcycles?

The big K started off building boats around 1908.

[Gosling1]

Yamaha make piano's and violins......

Suzuki make cute little utes.......

Soichiro Honda was a known shirt-lifter

....Kawasaki's first motorcycle in the 1960 was a 125cc two stroke Kawasaki motorcycle.

what utter crap.

Kawasaki commenced ship-building in 1878 when Shozo Kawasaki established the Tsukiji Shipyard in Tokyo. This was followed in 1881 by another shipyard, the Kawasaki Hyogo Shipyard at Higashide-cho, Hyogo. Both of these shipyards were amalgamated in 1886, and a decade later, in 1896, the Kawasaki Shipyard Incorporated was incorporated. (straight off the top of my head )......

The first engine produced by Kawasaki for use in a motorcycle frame was the KE motor, produced in 1950. This was a 148cc four-stroke single, and was used by a number of Japanese manufacturers at the time - notably Fuji, Gasuden, and IMC. ( as far as I can recollect...)

Because of its design and production being to *aircraft* standards, the KE engine was *FAR* superior to ALL other motorcycle engines produced in Japan during this period. In 1952, KHI produced another engine, the KH model, which was a 248cc four-stroke single. ( common knowledge really .... )

In 1954, KHI took over Meihatsu Industries, and produced a 125cc two-stroke single, called the KB-5. Another motor based on the KB-5 was the KB-2, which was a 60cc two-stroke single, and *this* engine was used on a scooter produced in the Gifu factory. ( read it on a beer coaster... )

This scooter was the *first* motorcycle to proudly bear the *Kawasaki* name on the tank. NOT the Meguro of 1960, which was a 500cc FOUR-stroke single, not a 2-stroke. (there were a number of smaller Meguro-badged 2-strokes around the same time)

Soichiro Honda started with generator engines for bicycles , and hasn't really improved much since then.

[Lucas]

So your point there Gos is..... hehehheheheh
isnt Kawasaki heavy industries the biggest builder of super tankers or something

[Gosling1]

So your point there Gos is.....

...Soichiro Honda started with generator engines for bicycles , and hasn't really improved much since then....

.....hehehheheheh
isnt Kawasaki heavy industries the biggest builder of super tankers or something

fully - they build the biggest tankers, bullet trains, etc etc. As far as I know, motorcycles account for less than 2% of their entire manufacturing output

[Lucas]

So your point there Gos is.....

...Soichiro Honda started with generator engines for bicycles , and hasn't really improved much since then....

.....hehehheheheh
isnt Kawasaki heavy industries the biggest builder of super tankers or something

fully - they build the biggest tankers, bullet trains, etc etc. As far as I know, motorcycles account for less than 2% of their entire manufacturing output

yep heard that
not just a pretty face are they

[Gosling1]

Its almost like motorbikes is something they do just to satisfy the Boss... If only they would sink some of their capital infrastructure into the GP's, then they would be unbeatable.....

they make really good helicopters too.........

and I think the Zero's used in WWII all ran Kawasaki motors as well (but stand to be corrected on that...)

[Minorci]

Something which you guys / girls might find interesting is fuel quality does make a huge difference.

I really dont know if it was the quality of fuel in Darwin or the climate.. up there i was using solely 98 octane in the 6r. Here the same - synergy 8000 and bp ultimate and im honest to god getting another 20-40km's out of each tank.

[BladeBoy]

So your point there Gos is.....

...Soichiro Honda started with generator engines for bicycles , and hasn't really improved much since then....

.....hehehheheheh
isnt Kawasaki heavy industries the biggest builder of super tankers or something

fully - they build the biggest tankers, bullet trains, etc etc. As far as I know, motorcycles account for less than 2% of their entire manufacturing output

As far as I know, motorcycles account for less than 2% of their entire manufacturing output

And it shows

[BladeBoy]

Its almost like motorbikes is something they do just to satisfy the Boss... If only they would sink some of their capital infrastructure into the GP's, then they would be unbeatable.....

they make really good helicopters too.........

and I think the Zero's used in WWII all ran Kawasaki motors as well (but stand to be corrected on that...)

If only they would sink some of their capital infrastructure into the GP's, then they would be unbeatable.....

[BladeBoy]

Its almost like motorbikes is something they do just to satisfy the Boss... If only they would sink some of their capital infrastructure into the GP's, then they would be unbeatable.....

they make really good helicopters too.........

and I think the Zero's used in WWII all ran Kawasaki motors as well (but stand to be corrected on that...)

(but stand to be corrected on that...) It was mitsubishi, If it was Kawasaki they would have jumped out of second gear

[Gosling1]

I am sensing a real inferiority complex here

I will repeat ad nausem - Honda's are built for the lowest common denominator rider, ...........and from a factory that puts SFA into its motorcycles, versus the largest manufacturer of motorcycles in the world ( 100,000,000 posties can't be wrong ) , you have to say that the Big K sell a *shitload* more bikes on a % basis of bikes sold v. % of factory size for building motorcyles basis.

anyway, I am done. Enjoy your Honda, one day you may graduate from learners and get yourself a decent bike, maybe even a ER6N.....

Postscript - I do actually have a soft spot for some *certain* Hondas , mainly the old CB400/4's, 750/4's and XR's........my first bike was a Honda

[BladeBoy]

All good fun Gos, no harm done, at the end of the day there are no bad motorcycles manufactured by the large companies

[Gosling1]

at the end of the day there are no bad motorcycles manufactured by the large companies

what about the expensive turds that roll out of Milwaukee ??

I guess they are not as *large* as the Fab 4.....