Pillions on a ZX10r

Lucas · Post by **Lucas** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:00 am

tape wrote:Lucas,

when do we get to meet this pillion? or are you ashamed of us? or do you want to her to be sheilded from your other life?

Cheers mate

oh I met one of your co-workers the other day....

ok it's offical i do have a girlfriend
I guess you could meet her soon ..... Ashamed of you guys .. noooooo never hehehe
just i think i should introduce her to the KSRC seen slowly as drunk, sex crazed, bike riding hoons .... oooopppps i mean fellow KSRC members may scare her off

and which one of our high level and class employees were you lucky enough to meet

your luck just never seems to get bad does it Mick hehehehe
btw got the new work ute yesterday ..... ummmm once the toolboxes went on the back i couldnt fit the genny ..... where am i suppose to put everything i say

StuMiller · Post by **StuMiller** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:06 am

I too have had my fiance on the back of my ZX10 and they tend be end up on top of you whilst riding after slipping forward - not that being on top is a bad thing....!!!!

FrogZ · Post by **FrogZ** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:40 am

Davezx9r said "No. Not worse. Quite the opposite.
Except for braking, sure it takes a bit longer to stop but the point is you prepare _earlier_ to stop."

Did I misconstrue something here???
If it takes longer to stop and you have to prepare earlier (which is what I said ANYWAY) it is hardly "the opposite" it is the same as what I said ie. the braking is WORSE
From what you have added I take it you think the braking of a bike is BETTER with a pillion.????
R U sure this it the message you are trying to get across to someone who may never have done it

Maybe I misunderstood what you meant to say ???

As to knee dragging with a pillion, would love to but my legs just aint long enough unless I hang off like a monkey, does grinding pegs count ???

And at 55kg I dont doubt you wouldnt have to adjust the preload. Damn I think I have worn backpacks wighed that much (jokes)

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:04 pm

frogzx12r wrote:Davezx9r said "No. Not worse. Quite the opposite.
Except for braking, sure it takes a bit longer to stop but the point is you prepare _earlier_ to stop."

Did I misconstrue something here???
If it takes longer to stop and you have to prepare earlier (which is what I said ANYWAY) it is hardly "the opposite" it is the same as what I said ie. the braking is WORSE
From what you have added I take it you think the braking of a bike is BETTER with a pillion.????
R U sure this it the message you are trying to get across to someone who may never have done it
Maybe I misunderstood what you meant to say ???

As to knee dragging with a pillion, would love to but my legs just aint long enough unless I hang off like a monkey, does grinding pegs count ???

And at 55kg I dont doubt you wouldnt have to adjust the preload. Damn I think I have worn backpacks wighed that much (jokes)

for those of u who dont kno him...dave is abt 6 foot 17...and rides pretty well with a pillion....

hes also not a bad mechanic, and all round good bloke.... and hes deaf....

FrogZ · Post by **FrogZ** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:18 pm

Yeah he posted the pic Neka, it was DAMN sweet.

Just worried that someone who doesnt know better thinks bikes brake better with a pillion?
I mean I take his point that you have to brake earlier, but that only agreed with what i had said, not "the opposite".
I would think from the pics and comments that he knows what hes doing, that was never in question....

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:34 pm

frogzx12r wrote:Yeah he posted the pic Neka, it was DAMN sweet.

Just worried that someone who doesnt know better thinks bikes brake better with a pillion?
I mean I take his point that you have to brake earlier, but that only agreed with what i had said, not "the opposite".
I would think from the pics and comments that he knows what hes doing, that was never in question....

i think he finds riding two up easier than riding one up..
i think thats what his comment "just the opposite" was for...not so much for the smoother riding required, or earlier braking..i think he just likes it that way....

then again hes a poof too so maybe he just likes the feel of a guys package in his back??

FrogZ · Post by **FrogZ** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:40 pm

..ta mate... now I KNOW he is gonna look to bash you instead of me..

gixxerdave · Post by **gixxerdave** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:58 pm

frogzx12r wrote:Davezx9r said "No. Not worse. Quite the opposite.
Except for braking, sure it takes a bit longer to stop but the point is you prepare _earlier_ to stop."

Did I misconstrue something here???
If it takes longer to stop and you have to prepare earlier (which is what I said ANYWAY) it is hardly "the opposite" it is the same as what I said ie. the braking is WORSE
From what you have added I take it you think the braking of a bike is BETTER with a pillion.????
R U sure this it the message you are trying to get across to someone who may never have done it
Maybe I misunderstood what you meant to say ???

As to knee dragging with a pillion, would love to but my legs just aint long enough unless I hang off like a monkey, does grinding pegs count ???

And at 55kg I dont doubt you wouldnt have to adjust the preload. Damn I think I have worn backpacks wighed that much (jokes)

in a nutshell, frog, yes it takes longer to stop, and maybe, i'll emphasise the maybe here, the handling might not be as sharp as when riding solo but.. yes, there is always a but in everything.. but like everything, there are ways around the handling issue, it doesnt happen overnight.. i was seeing some negativity from the things i was reading in people's posts and i certainly dont see anything bad about taking somebody on the back at all so i decided to put in my two cents.. done right, it can be a lot of fun for all concerned.. even more so when youre cleaning up everyone else..

anyway, i'll be posting a vid up sometime later this year...

neka...

DEN MONKEY · Post by **DEN MONKEY** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:41 pm

Had my first pillion on the back of the 6r and was amazed how well it handled .
Only ever had someone on the back of me ol gpx before.
The extra weight of the bike makes hell of a difference.
Only prob is with the extra seat height and me only being short, she has to lean quite a bit forward to grab around me. That and my short legs see me right up near the tank.
So she either squeezes in on the main seat behind me or sits on the pillion seat and hunches. She did try using the grab rails but I really dont like the feel of that unless we're at speed.
I can feel her slip back a bit on acceleration and get worried shes gonna come off. Even though when she was using them I took off like an old granny.

Being a caring guy that I am I picked up a pillion belt. The one with the handles on the side. Haven't tested it yet but I think it will allow her to sit more upright and me to know she's holding on when we get moving.
Time will tell I guess.

Me personally I like having a bird on the back and love having her thighs squishing me as we ride.
Here I was thinking it was a bonus of pillioning

I did reach around behind the GF the other day to have a grab of her arse at the lights. I pointed the car behind us out to her as the guy in the car was poking his missus to have a quick look at what I was up to.
Ah the joy, being on a bike and being able to play a game of grab ass.
What could be better.

gixxerdave · Post by **gixxerdave** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:01 pm

DEN MONKEY wrote:Had my first pillion on the back of the 6r and was amazed how well it handled .
Only ever had someone on the back of me ol gpx before.
The extra weight of the bike makes hell of a difference.

true, the extra weight helps with the damping and smooths out a fair bit of stuff, the rear shock does need to be adjusted a bit to cope with the additional forces.

I can feel her slip back a bit on acceleration and get worried shes gonna come off. Even though when she was using them I took off like an old granny.

maybe she needs to lean forward a bit as you accelerate? and sort of wedge the insides of her boots/calves on the sides of the ducktail? having a hand (or both) on the tank will help her to balance herself a bit better.

I did reach around behind the GF the other day to have a grab of her arse

i do that all the time.

gigksrc · Post by **gigksrc** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:00 am

Hey Dave. I keep looking at those pics cos your bike was the same as mine to see how to really ride the thing. I'm not keen to take pillions but good to see decent riding.

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:01 pm

gigksrc wrote:Hey Dave. I keep looking at those pics cos your bike was the same as mine to see how to really ride the thing. I'm not keen to take pillions but good to see decent riding.

shit gig..thanks...dont go getting him wound up..ull never hear the end of it..

gixxerdave · Post by **gixxerdave** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:46 pm

hmm.. why is it i can "hear" a broken record somewhere...

gixxerdave · Post by **gixxerdave** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:48 pm

... in the general direction of adelaide that is...

Neka79 · Post by **Neka79** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:06 pm

davezx9r wrote:hmm.. why is it i can "hear" a broken record somewhere...

u cant hear it...u must be reading my lips when i said
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