Qld Anti Biking Laws

[robracer]

Stand on both my hands and I'll fucken rip your leg of with my Teeth

This I wanna see

[seiko1]

[ If you are truly so vocal about it get off your arse and do something or if like the majority of the population you will do nothing except bitch and moan.

Nick

I'm with you Nick. It's easy for people to complain but offer no real alternative. As I've mentioned before, if someone really does have a real alternative (other than "leave it the way it is"), then I'm sure there are plenty of people who'll listen.

MMMMM Thats the point! Leave it the way it is.....It's called FREEDOM
The only alternative to Freedom is Totalitarianism.
We are are tick of the evolutionary clock away from the tree's, but the pussy arse elite of society think they can achieve Utopia in a decade.
Now that religion is failing to keep the masses under control, they think removing some our basic Human freedoms (associating with whom we choose and maybe breaking the LAW if we so CHOOSE) will keep us all safe.
Violence is the Supreme Authority, from which, all other Authority is derived. (quote)
Violence as we have all noticed is just fine and dandy when it's the Elite dishing it out to Protesters or whoever dares to challenge their Authority.
We've all seen the rich mans Army beating the shit out of defensless protesters and innocent bystanders in the name of ORDER.
No doubt some of them asked for it if they were throwing shit, but seated people getting their wrists twisted and dragged (Vic Police)
away for no other reason but to silence them is just plain BS
In my opinion if the bikies want to kill each other, bloody well let em. But don't use their bad behaviour as an excuse to remove OUR RIGHTS.
Maybe they have weapons of mass destruction tucked away in the Clubhouses
If this Law is like the other laws to protect the masses, you will still be able to be in a Gang if you live in Canberra, because there I can buy crackers and porn!!! Get my drift?

[Naked Twin]

You can't buy crackers in ACT unless you are a resident of ACT, changed the law a couple of years ago.

By the way you are free to associate with whom you wish, so long as that is not a banned organisation. This law already exist on a federal level with regards to terrorist organisations. So I guess too late your FREEDOM has already been taken. Just curious did you voice an opinion when Jamal was banned? They didn't even have a known presence in Australia but we banned them anyway.

Breaking the law is not a choice allowed to anyone, it sort of why we have laws. By choosing to break a law you should expect the punishment.

To take a small example of protesters being rough handled, please. You may not know this but to hold a protest you are by law meant to ask for permission. (Your freedom taken away again.) So that Police can close roads and ensure the protest is peaceful. Even with permission, at least in NSW the police have the right to ask a person or persons to move on without reason and to disobey is against the law. Now you could say nanny state but if the police ask you to do something as simple as move on and you don't then what should the police do, bring out feather dusters and tickle the mob? The only reason they are not moving on is because of the mob mentality, in numbers we can be goons.

On paper it would be nice if the bikie gangs only did kill and intimidate each other but unfortunately too often innocent people get dragged into it, you may recall the Milperra massacre. They are already asking how many witnesses from the Sydney airport brawl will actually testify due to fear of reprisal and trust me these bikie gangs know how to get information.

Nick

[seiko1]

You can't buy crackers in ACT unless you are a resident of ACT, changed the law a couple of years ago.

By the way you are free to associate with whom you wish, so long as that is not a banned organisation. This law already exist on a federal level with regards to terrorist organisations. So I guess too late your FREEDOM has already been taken. Just curious did you voice an opinion when Jamal was banned? They didn't even have a known presence in Australia but we banned them anyway.

Breaking the law is not a choice allowed to anyone, it sort of why we have laws. By choosing to break a law you should expect the punishment.

To take a small example of protesters being rough handled, please. You may not know this but to hold a protest you are by law meant to ask for permission. (Your freedom taken away again.) So that Police can close roads and ensure the protest is peaceful. Even with permission, at least in NSW the police have the right to ask a person or persons to move on without reason and to disobey is against the law. Now you could say nanny state but if the police ask you to do something as simple as move on and you don't then what should the police do, bring out feather dusters and tickle the mob? The only reason they are not moving on is because of the mob mentality, in numbers we can be goons.

On paper it would be nice if the bikie gangs only did kill and intimidate each other but unfortunately too often innocent people get dragged into it, you may recall the Milperra massacre. They are already asking how many witnesses from the Sydney airport brawl will actually testify due to fear of reprisal and trust me these bikie gangs know how to get information.

Nick

I know what your saying obviously, I'm just terrified by the way the "Media" can create mass hysteria (picture John Howard in a vest after the Tassie Massacre)and then the Laws are consequently passed that curtail my freedoms and I for the most part am a Law abiding Citizen.
We react to the Content of a report and it's more than likely we should be reacting to the Source.
Watch a Movie called V for Vendetta, it's fantasy like theatre but the "Theme" running through it is not Fantasy! It is happening right now.
What makes a ACT resident better than me? Can he be trusted and me not?
Anything "Elitest" will get my back up and I'm no shrinking Violet either, even if it's in a crowded restraunt and I see some Rich MF mistreating a wait "person"
they will get a gobful and consequently "learn nothing" from being treated as they treat others
McCarthyism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism) in it's current form will ultimately be the end of us all IMHO.
Cheer's Steve

[mike-s]

As they say at demtel, "but wait, there's more!"

On a point of order: bikies form council

* April 24, 2009 - 2:55PM

NSW's outlaw bikie gangs plan to put aside their rivalries and unite to form a council, following months of bikie violence.

Senior club members will meet at a Rebels clubhouse at Leppington, in southwest Sydney, on Sunday to launch the NSW Bikers Council.

Sydney QC Geoffrey Nicholson will act as legal adviser to the new body.

He said the majority of clubs were expected to be represented at the meeting, which would be open to media.

"Its purpose is, in part, to reassure the public as to the reason for its existence and to bring some objectivity into the picture and to also comment upon the biker legislation the state government has passed," he said.

"It's anticipated the purpose of the council will be, in part, to try and re-establish a sense of public order and to comment generally on the circumstances which have happened over the last month."

The move follows months of escalating bikie violence, including a brawl in the domestic terminal at Sydney airport on March 22 that left one man dead.

Under new laws passed earlier this month, the police commissioner will be able to apply to the NSW Supreme Court to have an outlaw motorcycle gang declared a criminal organisation.

Gang members who associate with one another can also be charged without warning and face at least two years in jail.

Fourth arrest

A fourth man linked to the Rebels motorcycle club has been arrested following raids on Canberra homes.

The 47-year-old man from the northern suburb of Lyneham has been charged with multiple drug and weapons offences and will appear in the ACT Magistrates Court today.

Three men linked to the Rebels motorcycle club were charged with weapons and drugs offences on Thursday, following police raids on five Canberra homes.

The police raids uncovered restricted weapons, ammunition, steroids, suspected cocaine and methamphetamine, cannabis, a hydroponic set-up and cash.

AAP