Test ride x2 bikes today

[Strika]

But you and wisc were made to look like douches

How's that? Nobody had any real evidence to prove our claims to be false. All it showed is the 10 owners are a winy bunch of girls because their bikes have no midrange

Hows that you ask?? Are your serious Ross?????? Maybe go back and re-read that thread up to the monkey porn mate! If you still struggle I am sure there are a few people in here who could explain it to ya!!!!!

[MiG]

Be careful Saki, 10 owners get very upset when you mention the 9 has better midrange
I have to agree with you as both me and Wisc found the same thing.

What a revelation. A bike almost tuned for racing has less mid range than a less focussed bike. That's the way it should be.

Regarding the R1's clutch, could that change with more kms?

[MickLC]

But you and wisc were made to look like douches

How's that? Nobody had any real evidence to prove our claims to be false. All it showed is the 10 owners are a winy bunch of girls because their bikes have no midrange

Hows that you ask?? Are your serious Ross?????? Maybe go back and re-read that thread up to the monkey porn mate! If you still struggle I am sure there are a few people in here who could explain it to ya!!!!!

Still trying for another bite eh Ross?

[Stereo]

The R1 had a designed way to disperse heat, in winter might be ok, but my legs even with boots and thick ridign jeans, felt like they where going to melt and my feet have never been so HOT, plus even on road riding the R1 was running at 102c whic is bit high. Althought today has been 29c (yes bit strange for Hobart) on open road didn't like that.

One thing that is very noticable on the ZX10R is that when the bike hits about 95 degrees the fan kicks in........ beautifully funneling all that lovely hot air onto your legs...

[SoundGuy]

My mates have an: 9r - 06 zx10r - 06 R1.

Needless to say i test rode all of them before i bought my bike and the 10 was the only one that had the power delivery i expected.
I've been riding bikes for a very long time and i know a thing or too, and there is no way that a stock 9 or the R1 have a better midrange on the seat of the pants dyno.

Plus, nothing beats going for a ride with a few other 1000cc and seeing people ask my mates if their bike are 600 or 1000

The only downfall of the 10 06/07 is the brakes, but if you commute on it or dont push it to hard, you dont need to worry about it.

Long live the Gumby

[Saki]

well i must say this morning i woke up thinking about the black zx10r that i rode yesturday... i am so convinced to buy this bad boy!

I agree with neka tho, my report was pretty amatuer i knwo that, but just giving it how i saw it and i did only have a short ride so there is no way i could give a real observation!

just liek to raz up some convo!

btw is ross79 the person along with kirsty that rode the zx10 and thought it was slow ?

[dave#3]

The only downfall of the 10 06/07 is the brakes, but if you commute on it or dont push it to hard, you dont need to worry about it.

Now SG, I think the 10 is a fantastic machine, and I'm having all sorts of (wet) dreams about one as a track bike, BUT, if you commute or don't push it hard YOU DON'T DESERVE A FUCKING 10!!!!!

[SoundGuy]

The only downfall of the 10 06/07 is the brakes, but if you commute on it or dont push it to hard, you dont need to worry about it.

Now SG, I think the 10 is a fantastic machine, and I'm having all sorts of (wet) dreams about one as a track bike, BUT, if you commute or don't push it hard YOU DON'T DESERVE A FUCKING 10!!!!!

well said Dave

[SnypR]

The only downfall of the 10 06/07 is the brakes, but if you commute on it or dont push it to hard, you dont need to worry about it.

Now SG, I think the 10 is a fantastic machine, and I'm having all sorts of (wet) dreams about one as a track bike, BUT, if you commute or don't push it hard YOU DON'T DESERVE A FUCKING 10!!!!!

l wanna 10!!

[biggles08]

Ahhhhhh....how did I miss this thread!? The mid range of the 9 vs the 10. What a topic....hehehehe..

I have found with my basic knowledge of bikes that the 9 'appears' to have more midrange than the ten. Further, It 'appears' to have better lower torque than the 10. This is based on a few rides I have had on my mates 05 ten and my other mates 'pimped out' 06 ten. I'm not for a moment suggesting that this is the case, merely that it immediately feels that way when you jump on it after riding the 9.

I have a theory for this. The ten is so much smoother in the power delivery than the carburetored 9 and this hides the real torque that the 10 actually does posses. I remember thinking to myself the first time I opened the 06 up and overtook about 5 bikes down a straight "This feels a little disappointing" and before I had finished that thought, I realized that my front wheel was skyward and I quickly changed my thoughts to something more like "Oh shit, how did that happen?"

I love the 9 for the riding feel it gives on the road. You can ride it at 70-80% and still feel the tweaks of the road, and still need to 'ride' it around the corners. With the ten, I found that it could read my mind...I came to a corner and thought about what I wanted it to do and it just did it....without any physical input from me (of course there was but it felt this way to me). It was like I was playing a video game rather than screaming along at 180kph. So...my theory is, if you want to become a better rider on the track you need to ride a 9 on the road and save the ten for the track as it deserves to be ridden 'in the zone' which is hard to do safely on the roads (in NZ anyway). The 9 will teach you to manhandle a bike better than the 10 IMHO and will instill respect for raw torque so you won't be fooled into thinking the 10 has none and get yourself into trouble.

In saying all this, I'm seriously thinking of buying a 10 for my new bike as I've binned my 9.

[Benno]

Just to add on a serious note, a carbed bike feels more "savage" than one with fuel injection. I find FI a lot smoother.I don't believe bum dyno's, but that's the feeling I get. That said, I'm fairly sure my 10 has more torque down low. Twist the wrist in most gears, and you're gone.

[Strika]

Just to add on a serious note, a carbed bike feels more "savage" than one with fuel injection. I find FI a lot smoother.I don't believe bum dyno's, but that's the feeling I get. That said, I'm fairly sure my 10 has more torque down low. Twist the wrist in most gears, and you're gone.

I disagree with this. I find that EFI bikes may well be more responsive once the throttle is opened, but the off to on transition is still jerky with all but the rarest of fuel injected motors. By pure design, CV carbs are incredibly smooth. They operate on vacuum remember.

[biggles08]

Just to add on a serious note, a carbed bike feels more "savage" than one with fuel injection. I find FI a lot smoother.I don't believe bum dyno's, but that's the feeling I get. That said, I'm fairly sure my 10 has more torque down low. Twist the wrist in most gears, and you're gone.

I disagree with this. I find that EFI bikes may well be more responsive once the throttle is opened, but the off to on transition is still jerky with all but the rarest of fuel injected motors. By pure design, CV carbs are incredibly smooth. They operate on vacuum remember.

I think your both right...Benno, I understand (I think) what your trying to say...the FI bikes feel smoother because the 'rush' of acceleration when it comes...this fooled me into thinking it was smoother but in reality its not. Strika, carbs are smoother for all the reasons you said....see were all one big happy family (but don't answer the door, I think its Quik_stix standing out in the cold )

[Strika]

Just to add on a serious note, a carbed bike feels more "savage" than one with fuel injection. I find FI a lot smoother.I don't believe bum dyno's, but that's the feeling I get. That said, I'm fairly sure my 10 has more torque down low. Twist the wrist in most gears, and you're gone.

I disagree with this. I find that EFI bikes may well be more responsive once the throttle is opened, but the off to on transition is still jerky with all but the rarest of fuel injected motors. By pure design, CV carbs are incredibly smooth. They operate on vacuum remember.

I think your both right...Benno, I understand (I think) what your trying to say...the FI bikes feel smoother because the 'rush' of acceleration when it comes...this fooled me into thinking it was smoother but in reality its not. Strika, carbs are smoother for all the reasons you said....see were all one big happy family (but don't answer the door, I think its Quik_stix standing out in the cold )

Biggles, you do know of course that Benno has sex with little furry critters!! You seen his sig pic???

[Benno]

Don't be hatin on the sig! You know it's clearly the best one going around here!

Did I ever tell you 9's have more midrange than a 10? Maybe you should add one of them to the list of bikes to buy