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Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:28 pm
by mick_dundee
photomike666 wrote:Problem is even ya comon-o-graden lambo costs more than your average mortgage, where a spanking new, whip the ass of the Lambo ZX10 is cheaper than dunnydoor.
Must be bloody good dunny doors down your way mIke

Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:30 pm
by the kid
After being out of road riding for 10 or so years I had a ride on a loan bike from Bri Kaw , a brand new ZX9 , B whatever , and couldn't believe how things had changed .
The rear tyre was huge but more so it was so much more secure on the road , just crossing a tram line confirmed how good things had got . The brakes were awesome and geezuz did it GO ! So easy to ride .
Would have to say that modern sports bikes are safer and easier to ride than anything from the eighties , but also agree that the born again biker is asking for trouble when stepping up to a modern litre bike armed with 20yr old licence that has had bugger all use .
Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:38 pm
by Blue14
Alright the 14 got a mention.. Awesome

Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:24 pm
by gigksrc
read all this & couldn't help but just feel happy to have a full licence, unrestricted, current, mine ......
if you listened to all the doom sayers you would never even have thrown your leg over in the first place
just enjoy it while you can
too young
too old
too much of a smart arse confident prick
whatever
just ride it & enjoy
Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:01 pm
by Gosling1
Mick C wrote:All the more reason to never give up riding, no matter what the reason...licence permitting of course eh Gos?
Yes , well,.......*ahem*......
I never stopped !! Fark 'em all !!!! Just wore a different jacket

Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:34 pm
by Rossi
OK as an old farker here's my take on it...........[img]http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/10212[1].gif[/img]
Old Kawasakis were a bastard to ride well......hinge style frames, wooden brakes and indifferent suspension....... but when it all came together it was the best feeling in the world....hence my love of all things Kawasaki cause you had to work at it.
Returning to biking after a 16 Yr lay off I bought myself a ZZR600 and learned roadcraft all over again, Got myself over to Aus about 3 years ago and bought "The final evolution" in other words ZX9R F2 and I've scared the shit outa myself on both and there is where the problem lies.........NOT in motorcycles or the power of them but of the ability and maturity of the rider to use the power wisely. So many of you on here have baulked at the time you had to spend on a 2fiddy but you learned shiteloads without realising it
Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:16 pm
by Billz
I didn't have a twenty year lay-off - longest period was seven years in the nineties, although even then I was doing a fair bit of riding, I've had a couple of lengthy gaps away from bikes and they have given me very clear demonstrations of how bikes have improved over the intervening years. I've never stopped riding bikes completely, though, and I've been able to adapt without too much trouble. If I'd had twenty years off, like some blokes I know, I probably be struggling to cope with whatever weapon I'd bought too.
There's smart ways for the born-agains to do it though. Some of the blokes I used to ride with in the eighties have hit on the idea of buying the same bike they last had, so they're all on these highly maintained eighties superbikes - Katanas, early Gixxer 750s, GPz900s, even a MHR Ducati - and all the technology of the last twenty years doesn't worry them at all!

If i go for a ride with them, they make me ride at the back (presumably to catch the bolts and spare parts that fall off). But they're on to something I reckon - you don't need to buy the latest and greatest. These blokes have made a virtue out of riding their old dungers (they keep threatening to tie pink ribbons to the 'bars of my 6 to show that it's a 'plastic Barbie bike' - carn'ts) and they're having just as much fun as I am - if not more! Still riding pretty hard, too!

Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:05 pm
by Neka79
Gosling1 wrote:Mick C wrote:All the more reason to never give up riding, no matter what the reason...licence permitting of course eh Gos?
Yes , well,.......*ahem*......
I never stopped !! Fark 'em all !!!! Just wore a different jacket

different jacket??
never thought of that..... hmmmm
dont forget ppl..the yanks dont have ANY training (i believe anyway) to get a bike license..and they ALL think they are Ben Doe,Pauly Sherer or Jason Britten (stunters)...
Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:52 pm
by craig
as born agains i guess we are....FATTER.....SLOWER......and LESS POWERFUL ........... but we're baaaaaaaaaaaaack..................

Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:29 pm
by Nanna10r
Gosling1 wrote:great post !!
Turn the clock back 40 years to 1967, and they were saying *exactly* the same things about the new Kawasaki H1 500 2-stroke triple....
".....mind-numbingly fast....."
"......only for experienced riders....."
".....8 riders killed in NZ in the first month....."
I wonder if that reporter has ever heard of a Bugatti Veyron ? even your common-or-garden Lambo is good for over 300kmh these days *yawn*

Ditto same crap for the RZ500/RG500 think they hold the fastest new to slew record of amy bike sold in Aus.
Re: Lighter,Faster, more powerful!!
Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:49 pm
by varden
I thought the R1 would be a close rival for that title ponti!
I rode a mates 1984 GSX1100EFE a couple of years back, fresh engine, it went pretty quick and he could punt it along, but the brakes were wooden, the susp was crap and the frame flex was appalling, not to mention the 140 section rear on it. Needless to say i took it easy.
I think its the rideability of the new stuff that gets people unstuck, its much easier to ride faster.
Suddenly your out of your depth, you panic and you stand it up and cram on the brakes....and crash.
Get your litre bike now before they get banned!