Anyone sell new cars?

[Smitty]

My advice is.
NEVER buy a new car, as soon as you drive it out of the showroom its lost one third its value.
Buy near new /40,000ks 1 year old. You'll save big $$$$$$$ & it will still be covered by new car warranty.
Let someone else do their arse on a new car, & you pick up the cream.

Secondly, If you go new, buy a Commadoor or Falcon/Territory, & keep aussie cars alive. Don't buy anything that's imported, our car industry needs help, the imports need nothing. Both Ford & Holden are offering huge discounts right now, & even better if you can find a 2012 model sitting in a yard, they will bend over to sell you a 2013 model. The company's offer huge incentives to dealers to unload their 2012 stock..
For economy . Falcon Ecoboost, http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falcon# ... 8978126790
Territory Diesel. http://www.ford.com.au/suv/territory#ov ... 8978979280

Hope this help, & enjoy playing word games with car salesman..

as one who buys 15-20 cars a year for work... plus the odd one for me or members of my tribe, I don't agree
with the 40,000km/1 year stuff. You are buying one years worth of another drivers bad habits. How many times has it
been bounced off curbs when parking ...etc.

The trick here ... is to get a dealer demo with a buy it now price.
I bought myself one a year .... a Sportwagon $12k off retail 2 months old with 800kms (actually an ex-Holden car)
and last week a Kia Cerato for the son-in-law. $28990 drive away for a car with a RRP of $39k, it had 150km on it.
And earlier this year one for my youngest daughter... another Kia, this time a Sorento. $33k driveway for a $42k RRP
with 300km on it PLUS she also got 5 year warranty and 5 year fixed price servicing... at max $250 for ANY service.
The drive away pricing is needed so NO transfer fees or stamp duty to pay.

yes I drive a hard bargain but i have been doing this 'buying cars' caper for more than 20 years

[ducati_paul]

....yes I drive a hard bargain but i have been doing this 'buying cars' caper for more than 20 years

Wanna buy a car for me?

[Smitty]

....yes I drive a hard bargain but i have been doing this 'buying cars' caper for more than 20 years

Wanna buy a car for me?

no...
flat out in the middle of purchasing another 3 for work ( as well as my usual job running 7 factories )

[Glen]

... just what the phark is this monstrosity? phark its ugly!
looks like a moulded piece of cow poo....

So does Paul, so it's probably a pretty good choice

[Glen]

Hey Smitty, you're obviously fond of the Kia's. My daughter is looking for a car at the moment, what's the KIA story these days? I know Hyundai pump out a pretty decent car these days but I've not heard much on the Kia's.

[Wattie]

Glen,
From what I could find out they are on par with the Hyundais.
Nanna loves hers. Has all the bells and whistles that her fairlane had but half the size and 1/4 the fuel bill

[smithy5]

One thing I always factor in when buying something is.... resale.....
Hyosung bikes are supposed to be pretty good, but would you buy one, or have you tried to sell a second hand one ????
Same with cars, Hyundai and Kia are supposed to be pretty good cars and they are priced right, but I wouldn't want to be trying to get some of my money back on a resale.....

My opinion Paul........... Get a Jappa, Toyota, Honda, Subaru, etc etc... The Korean manufacturers have pressured the Japs to keep their prices down.
You will pay a bit more upfront, but the Jap cars hold their value better and you will get it back when you sell it in years to come..... The Korean ones will be throwaways after the 5 year warranty has lapsed.

[Smitty]

Hey Smitty, you're obviously fond of the Kia's. My daughter is looking for a car at the moment, what's the KIA story these days? I know Hyundai pump out a pretty decent car these days but I've not heard much on the Kia's.

Kias come out of the same factory as Hyundais ....
and the Kias? not my choice but my kids (and kid-in-law) wanted them so i did my homework
rang a few people in the trade, walked into my local KIA dealer and gave the New Car Sales Manager
a ½ hour grilling on the cars, their service and backup and what they can do for me ... the customer

end of story..?? I told them I was acting for my kids...they wanted one ( a kia) and what extras
or deals could they (the dealer) put on the table to make my children give them money
otherwise they would be looking at other brands. Hard nosed?... yep cut throat?... you betcha

car sales people have to work to get my business (and I deal with Holden Ford AUDI BMW sales people for work)
and its no different when its family...

[Smitty]

One thing I always factor in when buying something is.... resale.....
Hyosung bikes are supposed to be pretty good, but would you buy one, or have you tried to sell a second hand one ????
Same with cars, Hyundai and Kia are supposed to be pretty good cars and they are priced right, but I wouldn't want to be trying to get some of my money back on a resale.....

My opinion Paul........... Get a Jappa, Toyota, Honda, Subaru, etc etc... The Korean manufacturers have pressured the Japs to keep their prices down.
You will pay a bit more upfront, but the Jap cars hold their value better and you will get it back when you sell it in years to come..... The Korean ones will be throwaways after the 5 year warranty has lapsed.

hmmm... maybe

a new Honda CRV... about $40k on the road (maybe tad cheaper driveaway if you haggle)
10 years down the track worth maybe $8-10k. Depreciation cost is $30-32k

a new KIA SORENTO (or its Hyundai equivalent)... bigger and better equiped for somewhere between $33 and $35k
10 years down the track worth maybe $5k-$6k. Depreciation cost is pretty close to the Honda.

but the cost of ownership with the KIA will be less if they still offer the same 5 year warranty and 5 year fixed servicing deal
and HONDA don't.

You need to take all this stuff into account.

[smithy5]

They are all 10K over what Paul was looking at spending. Compare the Honda civic or the Toyota corolla with the comparable Korean cars.....

I'm not up to speed on the Korean cars, cause like a Hyosung bike, I wouldn't give them a second look.
However I reckon they would cost about the same today as the Japanese cars, but what are the 2008 models selling for today ?????

I'd still go with one of the Jappa's

[mohawk miss]

the Ford Focus Trend (car of the year 2011 & 2012) can be got from $21,500 drive away.
I believe it's a very good car - a friend just bought one & loves it.

[ducati_paul]

I went and had a look at the Juke yesterday, it's nice! And 6L/100km will take a bit of beating! About the only cars that will beat those figures are the Kias, I might go look at one of the new Prius C Toyotas on Sunday, although I doubt they could tow a trailer

[Smitty]

I went and had a look at the Juke yesterday, it's nice! And 6L/100km will take a bit of beating! About the only cars that will beat those figures are the Kias, I might go look at one of the new Prius C Toyotas on Sunday, although I doubt they could tow a trailer

a PRIUS cannot outrun its own shadow

[Smitty]

the Ford Focus Trend (car of the year 2011 & 2012) can be got from $21,500 drive away.
I believe it's a very good car - a friend just bought one & loves it.

yes.. good cars
I have driven them here on test days and in the UK while on holidays earlier in the year.
stay away from the diesel version as the trade feedback on these is not nice

[Smitty]

I went and had a look at the Juke yesterday, it's nice! And 6L/100km will take a bit of beating! About the only cars that will beat those figures are the Kias, I might go look at one of the new Prius C Toyotas on Sunday, although I doubt they could tow a trailer

the Marzdar CX5 is better...at 5.1L/100km
and they will have a better resale than the lump of cow poo that the Joke is