Dog Attack

[Blurr]

Agreed Marty and so is a beagle

[z900/zx9]

Dogs,horses,in fact all animals including people some are good and some are bad for all different reasons so i beleive that for the majority they should not all be put in the same class.My brother was attacked by a german shepardand has a real dislike towards them for obvious reasons but loves playing with our mutts Kazzs labradoodle and my staffy.My last staffy was trained so that if he was walking in public and decieded to have a shit i could stop him on command even if he had started he would just suck it up and keep walking.On the other hand one of the things he did by himself was if a small child say under 6 would come to my house he would automatticly drop on to all fours and crawl towards the child to greet it on his stomach.No jumping or running ,as for other dogs they would bite him mainly little fluffy dogs and he would just ignore them and keep walking.Again i hope you come out of it ok

[Glen]

Sorry to her about your wife and dog mate but don't blame the other dog, blame the owner. We've got a Staffy, she's trained, she does what she's told and she's got no agression in her. She'll defend herself if she needs to but she's the most lovable dog I've had (and our last two were poodles). Pitbulls ie crosses are no different, if you bring them up right they can be awesome dogs, we had a couple when we were kids and they were great dogs.

Hope your pooch comes up OK

[Possum]

paulmac272 I too am sorry to hear of this traumatic event. I understand your anger and you should seek damages to the full letter of the law.
I was attacked while on the bike as i left a property from a retriever who ambushed me at the letterbox. I still have the scar from the bite through my jeans as a reminder.

However I agree with Strika 100%.

... I am a total dog lover, but, if I owned anything with bull terrier or pit bull blood, I would want to make sure that it was not only very well trained, but also that it was fort knox secure. I would most likely muzzle it in public too. As much as I love Bull breeds, they unfortunately have the ability to cause a lot of damage when they turn....

Having grown up with Rotti's, Staffy's, Chiwawa's and Terriers I believe Its not the breed, but the irresponsibility of the owner that leads to incidents and anger towards specific breeds. Any dog can do damage. My young nieces 5 and 4 were at the market and were encouraged to pat a maltesse by the owner, "she's fine, she wouldnt harm a flea" only to have the dog bite one of them. (from what i was told the dog was spooked having never been to the market before) Regardless this incident is still long lasting as the girls are now fearful of little dogs. They themselves grew up with a rotti and were in constant contact with staffy's, labs, kelpies and bordercollies.

[HeWasANinja]

Paulmac, so sorry to hear you have been the victim of an aggressive and uncontrolled dog. I am a total dog lover, but, if I owned anything with bull terrier or pit bull blood, I would want to make sure that it was not only very well trained, but also that it was fort knox secure. I would most likely muzzle it in public too. As much as I love Bull breeds, they unfortunately have the ability to cause a lot of damage when they turn. I hope you heal fast both physically and emotionally. I also hope the owner mans up on it and meets all your outgoings.

To HeWasANinja. You're comments are totally ignorant. I mean the term ignorant not as a derogatory term towards you, but in the true sense of the meaning. In other words you lack knowledge. Bundling "Hunting dogs" into one basket is ignorant. Why ignorant? Well, there are several different types of "Hunting Dog". Not all of them are designed to kill things. As a matter of fact it is more uncommon for a hunting dog to kill something. Hunting dogs are bred to find, point, flush and then retrieve the prey......after WE have killed it. We are the killers, not the dogs. So either, do some research if you are ignorant, or, choose your wording more correctly and don't judge every "Hunting" breed as a killer or aggressor.

I own 3 hunting dogs. Not one of them has any signs of aggression towards other people or other dogs. My hunting dogs are more likely to kill you by drowning you in saliva than from biting you.

FWIW, a poodle is a hunting dog......................

I agree with what hunting dogs are used for and your right we are the killers but if you think that tarring all hunting dogs with the same brush is unfair and not right then why do we tar all Muslim people as bad people or aggressive people... No I'm not Muslim I'm far from it but all forms of Muslim religion are labeled bad and nasty and in fact it's only a small minority that are bad people.... Much like dogs so should we be more accepting of Muslims yes.... As was quoted earlier by someone you good and bad of all creatures on this planet and it's normally a very small minority that are bad.... And I'm sorry if it has offended any Muslim there is nothing meant by the comment it was just used as context.....

[Leanne]

Since when were "all Muslim people labelled as bad or aggressive"? I don't know what planet you live on mate but you seem to be digging a bigger hole every post you make. As many have said in relation to dogs and animals and people, there's good and bad in all for numerous reasons. As to what people think of other races or peoples religious lifestyles, well, that can often come down to ignorance and believing in other people's ignorance.

[Glen]

Since when were "all Muslim people bad or aggressive"? I don't know what planet you live on mate but you seem to be digging a bigger hole every post you make. As many have said in relation to dogs and animals and people, there's good and bad in all for numerous reasons. As to what people think of other races or peoples religious lifestyles, well, that can often come down to ignorance and believing in other people's ignorance.

I didn't think that was what he was saying, I thought he was saying the opposite

[Leanne]

Since when were "all Muslim people bad or aggressive"? I don't know what planet you live on mate but you seem to be digging a bigger hole every post you make. As many have said in relation to dogs and animals and people, there's good and bad in all for numerous reasons. As to what people think of other races or peoples religious lifestyles, well, that can often come down to ignorance and believing in other people's ignorance.

I didn't think that was what he was saying, I thought he was saying the opposite

To clarify, he said, 'why do we tar all Muslim people as bad people or aggressive people...'

In other words, what I was saying is since when did 'WE' everyone have that perception about Muslims and if that's what you think, that everyone else Tars them with that brush, then that's where the ignorance comes in.

[robracer]

Im confused now...... getting back to the hounds, I hope you can get some funds from the prick owner, it all comes back down to him! he should be responsible for his dog's actions 100%... will probably just get a smack on the wrist anyway

[slaps999]

Sorry to hear about the dog attck. It's never good news for anybody. I hope everyone recovers quicky both physically & mentally.

Just to get off track a bit, to HeWasANinja, you must have had a bad dog experience to be so against them.

In my experience it's mostly the owners that have not been responsible enough to properly TRAIN, SOCIALIZE & EXCERCISE their dogs. I agree that there may be some breeds that warrant special handling, but mostly if the above three things are taken care of, there are usually no problems. I've had three Dobermans (the media will tell you they are killer dogs) and I've raised two kids and grandkids who have had many happy times with them, except when they wanted to sit on one of the kids' laps, 38kgs is heavy....and I've never had a problem with them wanting to attack other dogs. My dogs had the same issue as Strika's dogs, drown you in saliva.

[Strika]

Paulmac, so sorry to hear you have been the victim of an aggressive and uncontrolled dog. I am a total dog lover, but, if I owned anything with bull terrier or pit bull blood, I would want to make sure that it was not only very well trained, but also that it was fort knox secure. I would most likely muzzle it in public too. As much as I love Bull breeds, they unfortunately have the ability to cause a lot of damage when they turn. I hope you heal fast both physically and emotionally. I also hope the owner mans up on it and meets all your outgoings.

To HeWasANinja. You're comments are totally ignorant. I mean the term ignorant not as a derogatory term towards you, but in the true sense of the meaning. In other words you lack knowledge. Bundling "Hunting dogs" into one basket is ignorant. Why ignorant? Well, there are several different types of "Hunting Dog". Not all of them are designed to kill things. As a matter of fact it is more uncommon for a hunting dog to kill something. Hunting dogs are bred to find, point, flush and then retrieve the prey......after WE have killed it. We are the killers, not the dogs. So either, do some research if you are ignorant, or, choose your wording more correctly and don't judge every "Hunting" breed as a killer or aggressor.

I own 3 hunting dogs. Not one of them has any signs of aggression towards other people or other dogs. My hunting dogs are more likely to kill you by drowning you in saliva than from biting you.

FWIW, a poodle is a hunting dog......................

I agree with what hunting dogs are used for and your right we are the killers but if you think that tarring all hunting dogs with the same brush is unfair and not right then why do we tar all Muslim people as bad people or aggressive people... No I'm not Muslim I'm far from it but all forms of Muslim religion are labeled bad and nasty and in fact it's only a small minority that are bad people.... Much like dogs so should we be more accepting of Muslims yes.... As was quoted earlier by someone you good and bad of all creatures on this planet and it's normally a very small minority that are bad.... And I'm sorry if it has offended any Muslim there is nothing meant by the comment it was just used as context.....

You've been drinking haven't you??????? Mate, if you could have designed a more discriminatory post, you'd be up for Mensa membership! I am sure it was inadvertent, but it sure was inflammatory!!!

I do need to ask though, how your logic worked on that one???? I stated that generalising was a bad thing and then you go and generalise. Not only generalise, but generalise with a comment which I am positive is not shared by many people. Unless they are fully into Nazism! As Leanne so rightly said, shit man, you've really dumped yourself in that one.....

Once again, I am sure that was not the intent of your post, but fuck me it came across as totally ignorant and racist.....





Back to the OP though.......... make sure you take this one as far as you can legally.

For those owners of bull breeds, Regardless of your love of the breed, Pit bulls, bull mastiffs or any bull breed, .....don't kid yourselves. While i also love them and would happily have one, I am also well aware that ALL of them have the potential to turn. It's in their genetics. Otherwise, why the hell would people use them to hunt pigs???? There are several other breeds predisposed to aggression too. Yes, with strong control and effective training, they can be kept in check. But, when they turn, they are going to do serious damage to whatever or whoever they turn on.

I watched in horror one afternoon at the dog park, while a normally placid staffy, turned and killed a small white fluffy. It took maybe 6-8 seconds and the small white fluffy was dead. This staffy had been going to the park for over a year and had never even showed an inkling of aggression. So for all you owners of them, love them, adore them, but most of all remember they can turn and when they do it will be ugly.

GSD's are another to watch. They don't give off signals that they are about to turn, they just turn. Terriers are nasty and are well known to be bitey dogs. It's what they are bred for, killing small prey such as rabbits. Another breed which doesn't signal is Huskies and Malamutes or their derivatives. But, once again, with a strong owner, they can be kept in check.


For those of you who hate dogs............I feel sorry for you.....you're missing out on a very fulfilling relationship. Most dogs are way better humans than us humans! I'd rather spend my social time with a good dog than most people........ I haven't been on a date for over a year....every time I think of finding the time to go catch up with a female friend, I find I would rather take my dogs for a walk!!!

[paulmac272]

Guys, when I started this post I had a feeling it would stir people's emotions and there would be some healthy and lively debate on the subject, what I didn't envisage was that religion would be bought into it. If we look back at human history most wars were started in the name of religion. Religion is one of those topics I think don't need to be mentioned in a forum like this.

Anyway, back on topic. Before my current dog I had a Doberman for 13 years. She was a great dog, well trained, intelligent, loyal and very protective, and always behind a padlocked gate. I would however always be no more then an arms length away from her when friends with children were over, or my own kids were in the yard with her. Although I trusted her, I was never 100% sure.

I agree with Strika, having a dog is a very fulfilling experience, particularly when you care for them and have them properly trained, they are truly mans best friend.

My little dog came home today with his rear left leg in a cast from 5 broken bones, lots of bruising, muscle and ligament damage. The doctor believes he'll make a full recovery. It's great to have him home but there's still many months of vet visits and healing. I haven't lost any of my anger toward the owners of the other dog, in fact having to watch my dog limp around and not able to play with me makes me more determined then ever to screw this prick into the ground. I'll keep you posted.

[un_majstk]

terrible.
poor pup.
i can see the potential for a staffyX to do damage, which is why unfortunately mine is rarely off leash in suburbia.

your mrs deserves a medal for having jumped in and pried the jaws open.
good luck with the whole legal thing.

[mick_dundee]

My mother used to own an Australian terrier x Corgi, was great with kids when it was young, as it got old it got a bit tired of playing kids games, never bit anyone but would growl and make known his displeasure, so it can indeedd be any dog that goes feral, but as Marty sas, the things with Bullies is they have this massive jaw structure that can (and obviously has many a time) do serious damage.

No easy solution really, the pit bull is banned pretty much Australia wide now I think, last I heard they still allowed cross breeds but after a recent incident in Melbourne where a pit x got out and killed some kid at least in Victoria they were certainly clamping down last I heard.

[Possum]

The thing is, what ever dog/animal YOU choose to have, YOU are ultimately responsible for it.