'03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby Nelso » Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:19 pm

esie wrote:I went and got a quote from Suspension Improvements a few weeks ago to get the suspension on my '04 Z750 done. To have the front forks completely redone, new shocks and a new spring, the total cost was about $2,800.

I dont' really want to spend that much on a 4 year old bike....so I am test-riding an '08 Z1000 as soon as Jeff is out of plaster! :D


I spoke to him about the mod he did on ttc's forks and he was talking around the $1200 mark for a complete rebuild of the left shock to put compression and rebound damping (involved some custom parts) in it and a new spring and re-valving the right fork which seemed about right for that amount of work.
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby esie » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:55 pm

My quote was basically for a complete rework of the complete suspension of the bike, front and back.
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby zenodamper » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:00 pm

Well, just to give you some idea (and no I ain't looking for business, I have enuff down here to keep me cats in jelly-meat :lol: ) ...say for EG you got a brand new aftermarket shock as well as a cartridge (25mm) kit, the bill would be a little tiny bit more than that 2800 figure... Or if you got a Penske and set of Ohlin's replacement pistons (1/2 kit), then about 75% of 2800... Best bang for buck is likely around 5-800 bucks using stock; and 15-1800 with a shock there too - that would give you freedom to alter rear plushness, stabilty and traction a lot more...

Oh, and before I pop off to S.A., putting another cartridge into the left leg is not really that important - tests a few years ago showed 0.2mm more flex with only one damper cartridge, and a very very small drop in lap-time (on a GSXR1000K2 if I recall correctly). Depends how much symmetry is important to the aesthetics I suppose...?! :lol:
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby Big Al Glynn » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:49 pm

zenodamper wrote:Well, just to give you some idea (and no I ain't looking for business, I have enuff down here to keep me cats in jelly-meat :lol: ) ...say for EG you got a brand new aftermarket shock as well as a cartridge (25mm) kit, the bill would be a little tiny bit more than that 2800 figure... Or if you got a Penske and set of Ohlin's replacement pistons (1/2 kit), then about 75% of 2800... Best bang for buck is likely around 5-800 bucks using stock; and 15-1800 with a shock there too - that would give you freedom to alter rear plushness, stabilty and traction a lot more...

Oh, and before I pop off to S.A., putting another cartridge into the left leg is not really that important - tests a few years ago showed 0.2mm more flex with only one damper cartridge, and a very very small drop in lap-time (on a GSXR1000K2 if I recall correctly). Depends how much symmetry is important to the aesthetics I suppose...?! :lol:


Hey Zeno, I have a mate who owns a Z1000 who said to me that my 9 (which got the Zeno treatement last year) can go around corners, so I will send him down to you.
He also has a ZX6R 1995 track bike, can u do anything for this ?
Also have you done ZRX1200R before ? (Probably my next road bike). Al
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby Wadda » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:42 am

Big Al Glynn wrote:Also have you done ZRX1200R before ?


I was going to ask the same question. Approval has been given for an upgrade. ;)
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby zenodamper » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:54 pm

Big Al Glynn wrote:Hey Zeno, I have a mate who owns a Z1000 who said to me that my 9 (which got the Zeno treatement last year) can go around corners, so I will send him down to you.
He also has a ZX6R 1995 track bike, can u do anything for this ?
Also have you done ZRX1200R before ? (Probably my next road bike). Al


ZX6R F1? Yep can rework that - depends a bit on what has already been fixed on it, but a few fork bits might be needed, and preferably putting in a more modern base for the shock, with a proper tapered rebound adjuster (rather than a 4 position thing with crude holes drilled in it!) - something like a G,J 6R base would do it...

ZRX1200 - happy to do one of them... :) (Ohlin's stereo shocks have been a good price on those lately..).

Your 9 taking on Jetpilot's yet Al? :P
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby JetPilot » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:24 pm

zenodamper wrote:
Big Al Glynn wrote:Hey Zeno, I have a mate who owns a Z1000 who said to me that my 9 (which got the Zeno treatement last year) can go around corners, so I will send him down to you.
He also has a ZX6R 1995 track bike, can u do anything for this ?
Also have you done ZRX1200R before ? (Probably my next road bike). Al


ZX6R F1? Yep can rework that - depends a bit on what has already been fixed on it, but a few fork bits might be needed, and preferably putting in a more modern base for the shock, with a proper tapered rebound adjuster (rather than a 4 position thing with crude holes drilled in it!) - something like a G,J 6R base would do it...

ZRX1200 - happy to do one of them... :) (Ohlin's stereo shocks have been a good price on those lately..).

Your 9 taking on Jetpilot's yet Al? :P


He does every Sunday.... ;)
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby Big Al Glynn » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:25 pm

zenodamper wrote:
Big Al Glynn wrote:Hey Zeno, I have a mate who owns a Z1000 who said to me that my 9 (which got the Zeno treatement last year) can go around corners, so I will send him down to you.
He also has a ZX6R 1995 track bike, can u do anything for this ?
Also have you done ZRX1200R before ? (Probably my next road bike). Al


ZX6R F1? Yep can rework that - depends a bit on what has already been fixed on it, but a few fork bits might be needed, and preferably putting in a more modern base for the shock, with a proper tapered rebound adjuster (rather than a 4 position thing with crude holes drilled in it!) - something like a G,J 6R base would do it...

ZRX1200 - happy to do one of them... :) (Ohlin's stereo shocks have been a good price on those lately..).

Your 9 taking on Jetpilot's yet Al? :P

Yea for sure Zeno, JetPilots 9 is no quicker than mine at all, its him thats making the difference mate :) , hes a better rider than me full stop. But its all good and I really enjoy trying to keep up with the young fella (and fail miserably ), and me other 9 mates Shaun and Philthy :D .
Anyway I'll have a chat with my mate Steve about his Z1000 ;) .
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby Stereo » Thu May 01, 2008 1:55 pm

I rode a z1000 a few weeks ago... I thought the biggest problem was the handle bars, not the suspension..... They feel all flexy... I gave up trying to pull monos because it felt like I would break them...
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby ttc » Thu May 01, 2008 10:16 pm

What year was it Stereo?

I found especially not being as heavy as the guys that the standard suspension was woefull.
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby Nelso » Mon May 05, 2008 5:19 pm

I thought it was too soft. :cry: I have played around with mine and wound the preload in a fair way and it is good enough for now. I will be getting Zenodamper to re-valve the front and back later in the year (after winter), but for now it's good enough.
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby zenodamper » Thu May 08, 2008 12:55 am

Got a couple of brand new Ohlin's shocks that might be of use to you Z1000/750 owning people - going cheap too! :P


(about $400 off RRP)
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby Big Al Glynn » Thu May 08, 2008 9:25 pm

zenodamper wrote:Got a couple of brand new Ohlin's shocks that might be of use to you Z1000/750 owning people - going cheap too! :P


(about $400 off RRP)

I'll mention it to me Z1000 buddy Greenie tomorrow Zeno ........although he has just spent $5000 on his 2005 ZX6 track bike.....no wonder he never shouts a beer...
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby esie » Sun May 18, 2008 10:01 pm

Oh if only I had some spare $$$ at the moment! :cry:
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Re: '03 to '06 Z1000 suspension

Postby robracer » Mon May 19, 2008 5:56 am

zenodamper wrote:Got a couple of brand new Ohlin's shocks that might be of use to you Z1000/750 owning people - going cheap too! :P


(about $400 off RRP)


Go on do it!, the Ohlins rear is worth every cent over the crappy OEM, I never used to be 100% happy with the little zeddy untill the transformation :P
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