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MP3's?

Postby Slow and wobbly » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:44 pm

I'm a bit of a dumbass with these things - Insert Hoffy comment here - I am after all generation X which was predominantly the Compact Disc age. We went to a "Music store" and purchased them. But now that generation "why" - as in why the fuck weren't they drowned at birth? - has come along and they have created MP3's I am at a loss.
I have discovered that I can fit about 20 - 22 of my old fashioned CD's onto a CD-r when converted to WMA and this allows me to carry around my whole collection in the work van on 12 CD's. But since I have heard all of these ad-nauseum and I want to collect everything I never did before plus new stuff how do the kiddies do this? I can't imagine they pay $3500 just to fill up their latest 5 trilobyte MP3 player.
I found a site which was giving out MP3's but with a limited catalogue and suggested I delete them 24 hours after I download them and then come back and buy them - eh? These did in fact download but some had background digital noise to them. Is there still an underground movement similar to Napster still out there? Answers in a PM please!

I heard not so long ago that MP3's actually disrupted brain patterns because of the digital signal created - as in the peaks and troughs in sound are square as opposed to analogue which is spiked and linear. I am going to hereby coin this as the Corey syndrome! Has anybody else noticed that the youth of today are absolute fuckheads or am I just getting old? I
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Re: MP3's?

Postby hoffy » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:55 pm

pm sent......dumbass ! :lol:

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Re: MP3's?

Postby photomike666 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:07 pm

First up, I am also a generation X - I can remember when CDs were released. I understand the term, "rewind", skip was something girls did, and when Mars sang, 'Put the needle on the record", I could directly relate.

However times and technologies change, and being the gadget junkie that I am, i am 'down' with it.

Most importantly, it is illegal to download a copy/version of a recording artists work without paying for it. There are many places to "buy" downloads, even Telstra has jumped on the bandwagon. These can be from the sublimely cheap cents per track, to stupifying $ for an album.

There are a number of places where you upload an MP3 for an album you already own 8) . If you have already purchased a copy, attaining a digital version isn't illegal :rolleyes: . You often need some software such as bit torrent, and then you hook into sites that allow users to share files as Napster did all those moons ago before Metallica jumped on them. A Bit Torrent google will do the world of wonders here. There are some very good sites that are invite only, and have very good file transfer rates - but you have to be very serious about collecting files to go there.

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Re: MP3's?

Postby robracer » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:13 pm

We have to keep up with the technology:lol:
ie the Ipod 8 gig nano they are heaps better than the two MP3 pieces of shit I have owned.
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Re: MP3's?

Postby Wattie » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:05 pm

Slow and wobbly wrote:I heard not so long ago that MP3's actually disrupted brain patterns because of the digital signal created - as in the peaks and troughs in sound are square as opposed to analogue which is spiked and linear. I am going to hereby coin this as the Corey syndrome! Has anybody else noticed that the youth of today are absolute fuckheads or am I just getting old? I



it was my understanding that as soon as CD's were created the signal produced was digital.

thats why all the "ol folk" prefer records, true analogue sound waves. not square peaks and troughs like a CD.

MP3 i thought was just a lower quality version of a wav. file as found on a CD.

as for the brain damage bit? i think thats just the noise some ppl like listening too. "oonce oonce oonce"
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Re: MP3's?

Postby red_dave » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:14 am

photomike666 wrote:First up, I am also a generation X - I can remember when CDs were released. I understand the term, "rewind", skip was something girls did, and when Mars sang, 'Put the needle on the record", I could directly relate.


I remember buying a Metallica box set on Vinyl :oops:

Had the 5 singles at the time (One, Harvester of Sorrow, Creeping Death, Jump in the Fire and Garage Days), PLUS a live version of One :twisted: :rock: :supz:

As for MP3, I got the missus a Creative Zen and it's pretty good.
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Re: MP3's?

Postby mick_dundee » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:15 pm

Wattie wrote:it was my understanding that as soon as CD's were created the signal produced was digital.

thats why all the "ol folk" prefer records, true analogue sound waves. not square peaks and troughs like a CD.

MP3 i thought was just a lower quality version of a wav. file as found on a CD.


As I understand it an mp3 is a compressed version of the wav file as found on a cd, what I believe is taken out is indeed the peaks and troughs that basically are inaudible to the human ear anyways hence reducing their size markedly.
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Re: MP3's?

Postby javaman » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:32 pm

CDs are 16bit/44kHz sampled which in theory should be enough for the range of human listening. But the brickwall filter kills it. New cd technology (SACD/DVD-A) are sampled at 24bit/96kHz but they dont sell well (expensive).

MP3 can actually sound pretty good, especially if one samples it at 320kbps.

Most of the crap quality music we get today is actually due to mastering madness called 'loudness war', not encoding/decoding method. This is due to recording studios wanting to sell what's best attracting teenagers (as in loud music with little dynamics). Thus the infamous bob dylan quote "CD is crap"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ" target="_blank

Of course I prefer lossles compression such as flac or even wav, and select quality volumes from pirat-suche ! :lol:

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