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Bodywork Modification Discussion.

Postby I-K » Wed May 16, 2007 2:42 am

MG wrote:Its not my problem if the Inspector has or hasent done his job.


In the context at hand, yes, it is, actually.

You're using the fact that a Vicroads inspector didn't defect you for the pointy bar-ends to counter the point made by another party in the debate that pointy bar-ends make the bike unroadworthy according to the relevant regulations. If you weren't defected because the inspector was a slackarse who can't be bothered doing his job properly, then that says nothing about the regulations, just the incompetence of the people tasked with enforcing them.

In other words, your anecdote doesn't prove your point.

I'm happy with em, & at the end of the day, thats all that matters. :wink:


If you really believed that, then you,

a) wouldn't've bothered posting pics of them, and
b) wouldn't've just spent a page of posts justifying your choice.

The frame on my ZX9 is powdercoated a screaming bright red. It took a lot more effort on my part to get done and sticks out a lot more than a set of tacky-arse pointy bar-ends, yet I haven't posted any "Hey, guys, look at what I got!" pics of it. That's what shows that I don't care about the reaction to it from the general motorcycling public in the way you falsely claim to.

I didn't make a big deal out of how cheap I got the bike which formed the basis for the project, either.

Stop making out like you're something other than a show-pony.
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Postby MG » Wed May 16, 2007 2:50 am

I-K wrote:Stop making out like you're something other than a show-pony.

Image Go to bed old man.
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Postby Ian_zx6r » Wed May 16, 2007 6:05 pm

I-K wrote:
MG wrote:
Poyda wrote:I think you may also find its against the RTA laws to fit such objects.


Think again.

Less than 7 days ago, my bike was inspected by VicRoads Inspection Officer
with the spiked bar ends & spiked spools fitted.

He actually thought they were groovy looking. Told him they were good for
gouging the fuck outta cars when lane splitting as well.

Anyways he had no problems with em.


The "I'll now relate a made-up an anecdote that proves what a smart/cool/tough/sexy/shrewd/witty/observant/influential (delete as applicable) motherfucker I am" approach to debating a point has been discredited on the Internet back in about 1989.

If the story about a motor registry technical officer approving of potentially-dangerous aftermarket accessories is true, then the said motor registry technical officer is an incompetent moron who isn't doing his job, in which case, congratulations, you are now supported in your view by at least one incompetent moron... and quite possibly other incompetent morons, as well.

If you're making the story up, then you're not only a liar, but a crap liar, because you can't even make up a story which provides adequate support for your view.

Either way, nice going confirming what a tool, and a Whitworth one at that, you continue to be. It says something about you that you're jumping to the defence of someone who used this forum for unsolicited advertising of the tacky trinkets he hawks, then arced up at an established and knowledgeable member who expressed measured, valid criticism. One aggressive meathead deserves another.


Um, excuse me. I have a few questions to ask you. Why are my products unsolicited?
I make these products. I ride a Kawasaki ZX6R 2001 model. I am a member of this "community"... why are these products unsolicited?. That's quite offensive to think that you think of them that way....
Also, i don't appreciate being called an aggresive meathead... I haven't even met you and i'm being abused personally by you...
I did join this community with intentions of riding and getting to know the people involved here... but after that.. i'm not too sure..
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Postby Daisy » Wed May 16, 2007 7:42 pm

Ian_zx6r wrote:Why are my products unsolicited?
I make these products. I ride a Kawasaki ZX6R 2001 model. I am a member of this "community"... why are these products unsolicited?.


unsolicited adj. 1. not asked for 2. (of persons) not approached or solicited (for some purpose)


You offered them for sale. Nobody specifically asked you to. i.e. unsolicited.
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Postby Ian_zx6r » Wed May 16, 2007 8:20 pm

Daisy wrote:
Ian_zx6r wrote:Why are my products unsolicited?
I make these products. I ride a Kawasaki ZX6R 2001 model. I am a member of this "community"... why are these products unsolicited?.


unsolicited adj. 1. not asked for 2. (of persons) not approached or solicited (for some purpose)


You offered them for sale. Nobody specifically asked you to. i.e. unsolicited.


I know what unsolicited means.
I'm asking WHY?
It's all posted under the correct forum isn't it?
Can't members post things that they have for sale?
Why are my parts not welcome?
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Postby Neka79 » Wed May 16, 2007 8:37 pm

Ian_zx6r wrote:Why are my parts not welcome?

i think the fact that the majority of members who have replied to these find them dangerous, and feel that by making them u are encouraging ppl to put dangerous things on their bikes...


remember- it was only the spiked stuff that got the reaction... all the other stuff we have no problem with...its not a "envy" thing..its a safety thing...
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Postby robracer » Wed May 16, 2007 9:07 pm

Ian_zx6r wrote:
Daisy wrote:
Ian_zx6r wrote:Why are my products unsolicited?
I make these products. I ride a Kawasaki ZX6R 2001 model. I am a member of this "community"... why are these products unsolicited?.


unsolicited adj. 1. not asked for 2. (of persons) not approached or solicited (for some purpose)


You offered them for sale. Nobody specifically asked you to. i.e. unsolicited.


I know what unsolicited means.
I'm asking WHY?
It's all posted under the correct forum isn't it?
Can't members post things that they have for sale?
Why are my parts not welcome?


Um a commercial enterprise (thats you) should really require backing from one of the site moderators as a preferd supplier... depending on what you have to offer of course :?
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Postby Ian_zx6r » Wed May 16, 2007 9:35 pm

Neka79 wrote:
Ian_zx6r wrote:Why are my parts not welcome?

i think the fact that the majority of members who have replied to these find them dangerous, and feel that by making them u are encouraging ppl to put dangerous things on their bikes...


remember- it was only the spiked stuff that got the reaction... all the other stuff we have no problem with...its not a "envy" thing..its a safety thing...


Ok,
As i said before that if the moderators of this forum have a problem with them than i am happy to remove them... i'm only making everything available to everyone...
I haven't heard anything from the moderators so far so..... if you can help out... maybe the shit slinging can stop and people can return to normal..

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Postby Neka79 » Wed May 16, 2007 10:10 pm

Ian_zx6r wrote:
Neka79 wrote:
Ian_zx6r wrote:Why are my parts not welcome?

i think the fact that the majority of members who have replied to these find them dangerous, and feel that by making them u are encouraging ppl to put dangerous things on their bikes...


remember- it was only the spiked stuff that got the reaction... all the other stuff we have no problem with...its not a "envy" thing..its a safety thing...


Ok,
As i said before that if the moderators of this forum have a problem with them than i am happy to remove them... i'm only making everything available to everyone...
I haven't heard anything from the moderators so far so..... if you can help out... maybe the shit slinging can stop and people can return to normal..

Cheers


thats just it tho... its kinda like selling ciggies to kids... its not right, its not safe, its not legal...but ppl still do it...

while our mod's are really good at making sure this place doesnt get "nanny'd" cos that would suck arse...

its up to us folk to come to terms with shit on her, stop the personal attacks... this thread wasnt meant to be a personal attack, but it soon turned into one...
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Postby Daisy » Wed May 16, 2007 10:16 pm

Ian_zx6r wrote:
Daisy wrote:You offered them for sale. Nobody specifically asked you to. i.e. unsolicited.


I know what unsolicited means.
I'm asking WHY?

:roll: You asked why they were unsolicited. :roll:
Now you want to know why they are not welcome. I think everyone agrees that your bling is welcome - indeed it has been stated more than once that it is obviously well engineered and there is clearly a market here for it. However, as Neka so succinctly put it ...

remember- it was only the spiked stuff that got the reaction... all the other stuff we have no problem with...its not a "envy" thing..its a safety thing...

You agreed that the things are dangerous, yet you are expending an inordinate amount of effort trying to defend them. You have adopted an 'all or nothing' stance - because we don't like your weapons, we don't like your bling. This is simply not the case. Perhaps when you come to realise that arming a modern motorcycle like a Roman war chariot is A Very Silly Thing we might all be reading from the same page?
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Postby I-K » Thu May 17, 2007 9:20 am

Ian_zx6r wrote:Um, excuse me. I have a few questions to ask you. Why are my products unsolicited?


As Daisy has already explained, they are unsolicited because the page of posts full of pics of examples of what you make wasn't generated in response to anyone asking about where they might get some bling for their bike.

FWIW, a single post with a single pic of a representative bunch of your designs lined up on a table would've been a much more effective way of putting yourself on the map. A dozen posts with huge closeups of individual products is... well... kinda impolite.

Also, i don't appreciate being called an aggresive meathead...


That's OK. I'm sure Gos and others didn't appreciate you having a general spew at them after they took their time to post measured, fairly carefully-worded criticism of some of your products.

I haven't even met you and i'm being abused personally by you...


Well, all I have to go on to form an opinion of you is what you post here. If your way of dealing with considered criticism is to go off on a rant, then, I'm sorry, but the behaviour you exhibit is that of an aggressive meathead... in the same way as my behaviour is that of a prickly, cynical, sarcastic pedant who pokes holes in people's views and opinions for sport.
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Postby MadKaw » Thu May 17, 2007 5:37 pm

too think I've missed this whole thread until now..

I don't usually check the "bling" section..

Anyway, I will just say this..
I don't like spikey bits either, if ppl want em then fine.
I won't ride with anyone that has them as they are not only dangerous to the rider but to others...

I also suggest you read item 13.
http://www.ksrc-au.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8587

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Postby MG » Fri May 18, 2007 6:18 pm

I-K wrote:In other words, your anecdote doesn't prove your point.

As does any of ya adulterated 2c worth of crap. Image

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Postby Neka79 » Thu May 31, 2007 12:02 am



i dont find them safe either..and without getting into an argument, my point was just because its made, doesnt mean its good/safe...

personally as i see them as unsafe, i would boycott them (and avoid riding with ppl who may have them as a safety thing)...
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