Breaking-in period ZX636R

ZX6R, ZX10R, ZX14R, Ninja 1000 etc

Breaking-in period ZX636R

Postby Colette » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:36 pm

According to the manufacturer's specification and the info given to me from the dealer, I am supposed to keep my new 636 under 4500 revs for the first 1000km, which I have to say is not easy :?

When riding the bike on the M4 on Friday, I had to stay at 80km in 6th gear just to keep the revs down.

Cath - and others who have recently bought a new bike - is it vital to stick to the rev limitation, or can I push it a bit more?
User avatar
Colette
Team Cougar
 
Posts: 3089
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:20 am
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales

Postby MickLC » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:49 pm

Ahh the eternal "How should I break it in?" question.

You will get some people telling you to ride it as per recommendations. You will get just as many people telling you to ride it like you stole it!

So here's my bit. I broke the 10 in by riding it comfortably hard. I didn't flog it, but I didn't baby it. It's had all it's scheduled services, but I regret that I didn't do an oil change after a couple of hundred kays just to be sure.

Having said that I've got 21,000km on it now and no problems. It had the same power as the other 10's on the dyno, so no hassles there.

So I reckon do what you want, but don't tell the dealer just in case they won't honour the warranty :wink:
'13 Z1000, '76 Z650+,'91 KLR250, '95 ZX6R Racebike
User avatar
MickLC
Team Crim
 
Posts: 5429
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:04 pm
Bike: Z1000
State: ACT

Postby ducati_paul » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:04 pm

My Understanding of it (and the way I broke in my 749) is that it's more a case of don't sit on one rev for too long, i.e. vary your revs constantly and don't over rev it. If the speed limit is proving to be a bit restrictive in 1 gear alter gears to adjust your revs



.... of course I could be totally wrong too but my bike doesn't seem to have suffered any :?
User avatar
ducati_paul
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 1713
Joined: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:58 pm
Location: Sydney
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales

Postby bonester » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:22 pm

Check this out. I reckon this guy is right as long as the production tolerances are right in your bike. Apparently GMH runs their engines in on an assembly line- full throttle no load to run em in! :shock:

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

I ran my GT in hard after I put rings in it recently. Done nearly 10000km since. :D
2 X ZRX1200R 4 X ER6N, GT550, 1988 ZX-10, 4 X GPZ250R, 4 X GPZ900R and GPZ750R :) Yeah I like Kawasakis.
bonester
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 2075
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:00 pm
Location: Toowoomba/Ipswich Queensland

Re: Breaking-in period ZX636R

Postby Minorci » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:04 pm

Colette wrote:According to the manufacturer's specification and the info given to me from the dealer, I am supposed to keep my new 636 under 4500 revs for the first 1000km, which I have to say is not easy :?

When riding the bike on the M4 on Friday, I had to stay at 80km in 6th gear just to keep the revs down.

Cath - and others who have recently bought a new bike - is it vital to stick to the rev limitation, or can I push it a bit more?



Collete,

I bought my zx6 in April, i was a bit hesistant at first, but i rode the bike hard, even did a few runs on open speed limit to properly wind out the gears every now and then. As others have said just vary your revs etc.

No problems with my bike so far - 10k on the clock.

Also i have a sneaking suspicion the 4000rpm limit is there to make sure people dont kill themselves.

Just dont wait for the first 1000km before you change your oil.. I did mine at 50km, 200km, 400km, 800km then 1000km and did at 1000km intervals up until 6000km.
Image
User avatar
Minorci
Warming up
Warming up
 
Posts: 73
Joined: Sat May 06, 2006 4:38 pm

Postby Barrabob » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:02 pm

Hmm 700 ks in the hills on mine just vary the revs but dont try to break the tacho...say to 8000rpm is fine then i changed the oil and did a trackday and mine has 40000 on it and doesnt use a drop of oil.

theres more to breakin on a new bike though like the brakes and gearbox, my bike wasnt fully broken in till 2000kms i reckon.
If I rode my bike at the speed of light, what would happen when I switched on its headlights?

Image
Barrabob
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 1882
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:00 am
Location: Brisbane

Postby Colette » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:24 pm

Thanks guys - what is the reason for changing the oil so soon though?
User avatar
Colette
Team Cougar
 
Posts: 3089
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:20 am
Bike: ZX6R
State: New South Wales

Postby mike-s » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:46 pm

It's to flush all the initial crap from the motor running out. if you change it after 100-150 km it'll have silvery flecks through it, this is the bits of metal that've worn off the pistons, the bore, any little burrs that were on edging of machinery, or any bits of metal that were left over after construction of the engine.

If you change it after 100-150 you've gotten the initial bt of running in done, and fresh oil will flush the crap out to allow the motor a better chance of bedding in correctly.

oh and i'd suggest as a run in, just run the bike lightly and not load the engine too much, i.e. not sitting in 6th at 55km/h and cracking the throttle going up a hill.

that 4500rpm i'd probably stick to for a max of 400km or so if you wanted to stick to it (it'd still be ok to work it a little bit above that, say 100 in top gear or so every now and then ;-) ), then slowly work my way up towards the redline, so perhaps the next 200-300km just edging her up towards 6500-7000 a bit, and working it up like that. Just gives the motor a fair chance of bedding in, but you're not babying her *too* much :D
Image
If it hurts, you aren't doing it right.
User avatar
mike-s
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
 
Posts: 6142
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Arncliffe, Sydney
Bike: Suzuki
State: New South Wales

Postby Nanna10r » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:04 pm

Drop the Veggie Oil out of it real early Colette. Stay with a Semi Synthetic until at least 2000ks.

Don't baby it, I was too cautious with "Tiggr" & he's always been down a little HP compared to his siblings. Rejetting did some good but ...... :(

So next one i buy will get a good Tickle up during run in period thats "fer cher" :D
"Nan & Pop Racing"
Poppy Hops on .... CBR150 (Superlite) CBR954 "Blade"
Nanna Naps on .... MoriWAKI NSR85 (Motolite) ZX10R "Crim"
We may ride like Old Can'ts, But Phuk we look DOOG !!!!!!
User avatar
Nanna10r
Team Ninja
 
Posts: 4291
Joined: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:42 pm
Location: Brisbane Australia
Bike: ZX10R
State: Queensland

Postby Burky » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:26 pm

I would say not to baby it too much, ride it like a commuter not a theif. And most of all enjoy it. Early oil changes are advisable. :wink:
"I live in my own little world. But it's OK. They know me here"
User avatar
Burky
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 1646
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 12:20 am
Location: NSW Padstow
Bike: ZX10R
State: New South Wales

Postby Glen » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:42 am

Coming in at the tail end here Colette but I concur with most of the other opinions here. The specs in the owners manual are unltra conservative. As a guide I added about 50% to the recommendations ie 4,500 really meant 7000 etc. More importantly vary it around and run it up and down through the rev range a lot.

As Mick said mine and his were within 0.2 hp on a Dyno.

I run my ZX9 in like this and then after 1200k's basically flogged it doing ride days and it run really well.
It's really all about standing around drinking Dave's beer.
2008 ZRX1200 Greeeeen Roadie
2016 KTM Superduke 1290 Oraaaaange
2016 Seadoo RXTX300
Too many toys.......work is getting in the way!!!!
User avatar
Glen
VIP MEMBER
VIP MEMBER
 
Posts: 7268
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:30 am
Location: Kellyville
Bike: ZRX
State: New South Wales

Postby Saki » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:09 am

just out of interest tho, doesn't changing hte oil yerself VOID the warranty ??

i will getting my 636 withint he next few days :evil: (i am really sick of waiting also) so u guys reckon basically

ride it to about 7000 each gear, vary gear changes often, wat is the HARDEST it should b rev'd too ?
User avatar
Saki
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 2167
Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:59 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: Western Australia

Postby mike-s » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:00 am

changing the oil, void warranty? god i hope not and i seriously doubt it would void it. but when it came down to mechanical maintenence like brake caliper rebuilds, valve clearance checking/fixing. i think they'd only have any issues if it was proveable that you did something that was a direct cause for the part in question to break/fail/not do what it should.
Image
If it hurts, you aren't doing it right.
User avatar
mike-s
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
Apprentice Post Whore :-)
 
Posts: 6142
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:43 am
Location: Arncliffe, Sydney
Bike: Suzuki
State: New South Wales

Postby Saki » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:04 am

hmmm that article is quite good, ride it hard! and it makes sense why to ride it hard also!

my bigget problem tho is, doign the oil and filter is all good and following those instrustructions cause they seem correct, but i sitll want to keep the warranty. and i dunno if the dealer will do that stuff cause they would only follow the manufactures specs.
User avatar
Saki
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 2167
Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:59 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: Western Australia

Postby Saki » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:15 am

hmmm well wonder why did the kawa dealer tell my mate with his ZZR that was new from dealer, was told that cause he did an oil change that his warranty was void.. thats why i assumed the same..

but the dealer told me, u can do exhaust, fender eleminator, and al these extra stuff, he said as long as u don't play with the engine u r fine!!
User avatar
Saki
KSRC Contributor
KSRC Contributor
 
Posts: 2167
Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:59 pm
Bike: ZX10R
State: Western Australia

Next

Return to ZX-R / Ninja Current Model Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests