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by **Duane** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:14 am

Nup, if ur stupid enough to take drugs into another country (bullshit she didnt know) you're stupid enough to pay the price

Break the law in another country, you suffer the punishment of their laws... Take singapore for instance.

Tough titties if you ask me.

People have to understand that australia's laws compared to other countrys are very soft.. and people enjoy that when they are involved in such things. but dont expect australia to come running to their assistance when they get caught overseas.

by **photomike666** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:21 am

If you're going to visit you brother who owns a surf shop, would you really be taking a boogie baord?

by **javaman** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:24 am

I still think the possibility is still there. You don't have controls to you baggage and that's the fact.

In saying that the customs procedures must be reviewed all around the world. This does not happen in Bali only i.e. Chika H. a japanese tourist in Melbourne with similiar story.

The rest of media circus i.e. her brother caught doing dope should not be even relevant.

by **balanse** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:43 am

I just cant get over the profit equation involved in this case.

WHY would anyone take pot to Bali and LOSE $$ for the risk involved. Surely nobody could find this attractive enough to do...surely.

This is what leads me to believe her innocence, not conclusive by any stretch. Pity her sorry arse if she is innocent though.

by **Duane** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:47 am

you dont lose money.. aussy weeds' worth more over there..

by **Mizz ZZR** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:50 am

I now reckon she's a victim of her dodgy half brother....

by **balanse** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:59 am

you dont lose money.. aussy weeds' worth more over there..

Why?

by **mike-s** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:13 am

photomike666 wrote:There's enough of Australia to explore without heading for Bali. As for this case - I think she's a victim and the government should have stepped in ages ago.

Which government? the Australian one? all the power they'd have is just to pester them as as much as we hate what's happened, they (Indonesia) are a soverign nation and have their own laws, as shitty as we think they & their judicial system are.

by **Duane** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:30 am

balanse wrote:
you dont lose money.. aussy weeds' worth more over there..

Why?

Westerners will pay more money for weed sold by westerners that is from western countrys. rather than buying off the balinese people (because of the whole, if you dont buy it i'll tell the copper your trying to buy drugs thing) as well as the known quality/saftey

anyways read that in a article.

by **sneakypete** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:20 pm

i know of a person in customs, who said (back when this first made the news) that the feds had been watching her (and the brother) for the previous 3 months.

definitely guilty. unfortunately......

indonesia uses the dutch judicial system unlike our adversarial system.... it is up to the defence to prove innocence, not the prosecutions job to prove you did it.

by **the kid** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:25 pm

Funny I was just thinking of this stuff this morning after seeing photo's last night for the first time of the size of the package of dope :shock:

Thought I might get the boogie board out and blind test someone to see if they would notice 4kg difference in a boogie board ???

That of course has nothing to do with the possibilities of the gear being planted on her , and what would you do even if you noticed that your boogie board had porked up a treat , "excuse me Mr Bali customs officer , whats this stuff in my luggage ? "
Sure to get a kind reaction , not .

by **MrsDuane** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:41 pm

Her sister is a nut case!
Her brothers is a drug dealer!!

What more do you want?? Anyone else see the footage of when they handed down her sentence?? She smacked herself in the head, she was probably thinking " doh busted "

by **Stereo** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:50 pm

cambo: version 2 wrote:indonesia uses the dutch judicial system unlike our adversarial system....

Uhm.... Did you make that up?

by **aardvark** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:20 pm

balanse wrote:WHY would anyone take pot to Bali and LOSE $$ for the risk involved. Surely nobody could find this attractive enough to do...surely.

Hydroponically grown cannabis is worth a lot more than the roadside grown variety they sell in Bali.

by **mike-s** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:33 pm

Stereo wrote:
cambo: version 2 wrote:indonesia uses the dutch judicial system unlike our adversarial system....

Uhm.... Did you make that up?

Nope, its true. the Dutch system is called the "inquisitional" type of system, and Indonesia is one of the many country's to follow that form of legal process.

To compare the difference, say you were guilty of having 50gm's of pot on you, and thought, "right, cop it on the chin, admit your guilty to hopefully get a lighter sentence". Here you'd cop a plea, say get a 18 month suspended sentence or whatever the judge deems nessecary, its over, case adjourned.

In the dutch system, they would take that into account, continue to follow due process, consider all possibilities and follow the process until guilt is proven, and then a conviction is assigned. But if you were innocent of the crime you MUST NAME the person who is guilty of it. If your innocent, and cannot name the person, tough shit, your stuck with the sentence.

Much more of a "spanish inquisition" of a legal system than i'd ever like to be on the pointy end of.

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