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Should I repair my $2000 track bike with $2000 rebuild. OR hold out for a suitable wreck to come up at auction for around$2-3000 and turn this one into parts?

Fix it fool!
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Postby varden » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:36 am

Sulli wrote:Is that Quote for big ends only no mains bearings and no journal regrind ????has the bike/engine been stripped to give this estimate or are there other surprises once committed if its just big ends should be able to be done without stripping the top end
If this is the case you should be able to do it your self


I'm picking the bike up in the morning sulli, I will ask Pete what the $2000 gets me, he builds race engine for the moto cross boys and has his own dyno so he should know what he's doing.

i must admit if it is just a case of replacing the big ends and not rebuilding the entire engine i prolly would give it a go, can't get much worse!

HemiDuty wrote: Call Rachael then call me. I am keen to help.


Thanks Drim will call Rachael to sus my options, for the time being all my trakies bits inc slicks etc are going to go on the road bike for trackdays at least.

Barrabob wrote:Or you could sell it to me.


Mate even with the engine rooted i could use the trackie to ressurect a couple more project 03-04 ZX6Rs, you should see the collection of extra bits i have....just need some more repairable write offs to come up.
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Postby Plaz » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:06 am

Mate, even if it cost you $4500. 00 to rebuild, you still have a dirt cheap fairly current model ZX6R track weapon!!!!

The do it ya self option is always good and personally I'd give it a go, but if someone else fixes it you may get some warranty....at worst if they fuck something up...they payto get it right....not you!!
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Postby varden » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:32 pm

Hemi wrote:Call Rachael then call me. I am keen to help.


I called Rachael, she's not sure where they stand on Zx636R's at club level, she has asked me to send an email so it can be forwarded for a ruling once and for all.

email sent... 8)

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Postby MadKaw » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:51 pm

Plasma Blue 636 wrote:The do it ya self option is always good and personally I'd give it a go, but if someone else fixes it you may get some warranty....at worst if they fuck something up...they payto get it right....not you!!


I wouldn't bet on that.
After a $2000 engine rebuild my 9 shat itself after 3 track days. Obviously the mechanic denied any wrong doing and either blamed me or some of the non std parts as the problem.. they didn't care they just weren't taking responsability.
Sooo I figured it would be of no use letting them look at it to see what was wrong as they already made there position clear.
Especially after it first started mucking up and they just butched it up to get rid of me.. (valves needing re-shimming after 2 track days.??? and grinding down shims as they didn't have the right size.???)
I took it to someone else who fixed it up and they flatly stated who ever it was that did the rebuild was an idiot and didn't seat and set the valves up properly. Hence the need for ANOTHER brand new set of valves.!!
and the original rebuild was done by a very well known western sydney performance shop....

They offer racers warranty - if it breaks, you keep both parts.!

BTW, I did vote you should rebuild it.. Just cause I got screwed, doesn't mean you should..... :wink:
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Postby Nanna10r » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:01 pm

Glenn Rebuild the Sucka then put the new/rebuilt motor in your Roadie & swap put the good old used motor into your Trackie. It's a bit more mucking around but I think it will be a better option. I'm still jealous 4k -4.5k for a "Barra Trackie" is a bargain.
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Postby stevew_zzr » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:05 pm

Seeing as it's a track bike, it's going to be under extreme load alot of the time. I would suggest nothing less than a full blue-print (essentially checking all tolerances and measurements) of the bottom end. If they are willing to do it for $2000, then go for it. But if they are just going to replace big end bearings for $2000 (and are not willing to supply you with all the relevant blue-print sheet info) then don't bother as it will only break again.

DIY bottom end rebuilds for a track bike are a helluva issue. I'd be surprised if you could do it for less than $2000 unless you already have a internal micrometer set, vernier guage, cylinder/bore guage, rod-stretch gauge (not necessary but highly recommended) and a telescoping dial-guage. Even then you still have to pay for the machining, balancing, bearings, rings, lube etc.
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Postby varden » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:08 am

okay okay I'm thinking of clearing some space on my work bench and having a crack at rebuilding the engine, can't be any worse eh?

I talked to the bloke at shop when i got bike back, and basically he'd build up engine and what it cost would be what it cost...ie if it needs more parts or labour expect it to go way over $2000....so stuff that.

I've rebuilt engines before....just not so tiny or sophisticated.... :?

but i have detailed service manual to help me.
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Postby ttc » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:12 am

i have one, send me a pm, or you download one here

http://www.gofastvideo.com/gallery/item ... -book.html

where it says click here to play video, right click and save target as

beware very large download, but it's the full workshop manual
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Postby hidepenny » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:53 pm

thx i needed that too for the upcoming weekend upon receiving the bike :D
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