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I had a new chain fitted yesterday and asked for a did x ring and ended up with a rk x ring both chains from japan anybody know if there is a significant quality difference ???

i hear both chains are of good quality.

thr rk is more popular to get than the did.

z900/zx9 wrote:I had a new chain fitted yesterday and asked for a did x ring and ended up with a rk x ring both chains from japan anybody know if there is a significant quality difference ???

This is a bit like tyres........Some people swear by this, or by that, and may god strike you down if you use anything else...........

realistically, all the top end chains, DID, RK, EK, Tsubaki etc., are all line ball. If it's a good quality X ring chain, chances are you will get about the same performance and mileage outta it as any other good quality X-ring chain

I was nearly broke when my chain went bung and put an O ring chain on... it cost about $120 and looks identical to the chain that was on the bike at the time...

I plan to replace it at some point in the future...

Are O ring chains that much worse or is it just a teeny bit? 10 years ago you couldnt even get an X ring, you could only choose between O ring and Non O ring chains....

O-ring is fine Stereo!! As long as you still buy the top end stuff, it's all good quality. The more you spend, the longer it usually lasts. O-ring X-ring, it's just an excuse for a tad more dough outta ya!!!!

Strika wrote:O-ring is fine Stereo!! As long as you still buy the top end stuff, it's all good quality.

It was some Japanese brand.... I hadnt heard of it before.... but apparently it is the standard brand that is fitted to Suzuki... or out of the same factory or something....

Strika wrote:The more you spend, the longer it usually lasts.

Sweet.... my wife is gonna last AAAAges

How about the differences with 'circlip' type chain joints and rivet chain joints.

Obvoiusly the rivet joints are stronger, but are there any bikes/circumstances where you should NOT use the retaining clip chains?

Stereo wrote:

Strika wrote:The more you spend, the longer it usually lasts.

Sweet.... my wife is gonna last AAAAges

thats why women out live the men.

whats the difference between o ring and x ring chains (noob)

circlework wrote:whats the difference between o ring and x ring chains (noob)

About ten letters CW!!!!

The seal around the pin...you'd need to look at a diagram for it to make sense...grab any bike mag (two wheels, etc) and there will probably be and ad of some kind in there.

7THSIN wrote:How about the differences with 'circlip' type chain joints and rivet chain joints.

Obvoiusly the rivet joints are stronger, but are there any bikes/circumstances where you should NOT use the retaining clip chains?

A peen link, or rivet link is really no stronger than a clip link. The clip forms no real strength in the link. It is the sideplate which forms part of the strength. It is just that a Peen, or rivet link is not going to come apart, whereas there is a chance a clip link can. Having said that, I have done loads of miles on clip links, and never had one let go. If they are put together properly with little give then they will usually stay put.

7THSIN wrote:How about the differences with 'circlip' type chain joints and rivet chain joints.

Obvoiusly the rivet joints are stronger, but are there any bikes/circumstances where you should NOT use the retaining clip chains?

With all due respect, this idea that 'riveted' links are stronger should be put to the test on 'Mythbusters'..........its a complete urban myth.

I have used the standard 'circlip' joining link on every m/cycle owned since 1978, and *not once* have I EVER had a problem with the standard c-clip.........

There is one thing you do have to watch though - always install the clip so it is facing REARWARD as the chain moves over the front sprocket.......if you don't there is a *small* possibility that the link will seperate if the open end is facing forward......

Just fit them properly, and you'll be sweet mate.....

The difference between 'O' rings and 'X' rings is in the profile - if you can imagine looking at an O-ring in profile, then each *entire* side of the O-ring is in contact with the sideplate......but an X-ring, only the 4 points at the ends of the X-ring are in contact with the sideplate, so theoretically, the X-ring chain will have less friction, and less HP loss........theoretically.....

In the old days, an O-ring chain was always *heavier* and sucked *plenty* of HP ........these days, they are not anywhere near as bad.....

wats the diff in shape from the x-ring and a xw-ring ?

in profile, the xw-ring looks more like a 'w' on each side - once again the theory being

(a) better sealing of the internal lubricant
(b) less friction again than the x-ring.......

personnally I think the xw-ring is marketing strategy gone mad

but I am old and prone to bouts of pessimistic doubts about marketing strategy's.......