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				Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:16 pm
				by Jonnymac
				So it would appear that they have finally come to their senses and are placing transponders on bikes to confirm people are riding in the correct groups for their talents...
Starting from Monday. 
Good to see they are now being proactive about things.  I've also found that they seen more consumer minded these days with rider reward programs and the deal at world supers of purchase a track day and receive the second for $99.

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:38 pm
				by Frank
				So will this apply to Eastern Creek as well?
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:41 pm
				by matchan
				Frank wrote:So will this apply to Eastern Creek as well?
Yes, I was out last Saturday and the system was being trialled, don't know of anyone who was moved though.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:53 pm
				by Cath
				It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
I don't think they'll use it to sort everyone in order (think of the admin nightmare switching that many people around), but it may quite well be used to move outliers and also to tell people they have to slow down since thye booked themselves into that group, until a space in a faster group opens up.
It will be interesting anyway, however it ends up being implemented.
I'd love to get my hands on the raw (anonymised) data.  Think of the data mining & mapping potential 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:55 pm
				by Six Addict
				lap times!!!  
  
 
no more bullshitting at the pub after  

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:04 pm
				by Smiffy
				They won't be made public
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:43 pm
				by paulsj
				Don't know why they don't just give lap times then people would have an idea on what group they should be in.......I'm going on Monday and put myself in medium as first time to the island for me but would be good if I can hopefully move up as the day goes on I met their criteria for medium group. Only ridden broadford and winton first time at the island on a bike.  Can't wait 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:22 pm
				by Kermit
				Frank wrote:So will this apply to Eastern Creek as well?
Yes, didn't work great on its first day of use.
The moment riders got told they were being tracked, rider behavior went stupid.
They had 8 crashes by the end of the first session from white to green, at the end of the second session; white > green riders got called to attend a brief & told to tone it down.
Didn't work, meat & recovery wagon on overtime, every session had been cut short; averaging 3 laps per session.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:00 am
				by z900/zx9
				paulsj wrote:Don't know why they don't just give lap times then people would have an idea on what group they should be in.......I'm going on Monday and put myself in medium as first time to the island for me but would be good if I can hopefully move up as the day goes on I met their criteria for medium group. Only ridden broadford and winton first time at the island on a bike.  Can't wait 

 
Compared to broadford Get used to some open space and  going FAST.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:02 am
				by matchan
				Kermit wrote:Frank wrote:So will this apply to Eastern Creek as well?
Yes, didn't work great on its first day of use.
The moment riders got told they were being tracked, rider behavior went stupid.
They had 8 crashes by the end of the first session from white to green, at the end of the second session; white > green riders got called to attend a brief & told to tone it down.
Didn't work, meat & recovery wagon on overtime, every session had been cut short; averaging 3 laps per session.
 
Interesting, I didn't connect the carnage with people trying to prove they were faster until I read this, you could well be right, white was crazy. For once yellow worked pretty well, very few incidents through the day. I doubt they will use the data to swap too many riders though I'd imagine they are after the guy who is 5-10 seconds slower than the next slowest in the group. Wonder if they ever make the call that someone is too slow for white? (banished to the go-kart track)
It would be interesting to see the anonymised data though
Incidentally, anyone know who was doing the photos last weekend at EC?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:21 am
				by Smiffy
				Keith was down here at WP so one of his guys was there for him I believe
			 
			
					
				Re: Phillip island ride days
				Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:31 pm
				by matchan
				Smiffy wrote:Keith was down here at WP so one of his guys was there for him I believe
Thanks Smiffy, I figured Keith would be at the races, good to know he still had it covered though, I'll keep an eye on his site.