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Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 8:57 am
by Smitty
Bikers revved up over CityLink toll
By Dan Silkstone Transport reporter The Age
May 12, 2005

Citylink is about to end the free ride for Victorian motorcyclists by switching on new cameras that will make them pay tolls for the first time.

Motorbike riders have not paid tolls since CityLink opened in 1999 because the number plate recognition cameras used by the toll road's operator, Transurban, take only front-on snapshots. Motorcycles do not have front number plates and cannot be fitted with e-tags.

But new rear-view cameras recently installed along the toll road will allow Transurban to identify motorcycle number plates and realise its long-held goal of recovering tolls from motorcyclists.

CityLink spokeswoman Jane Calvert said yesterday a decision on tolling motorcyclists would not be made until testing showed the technology was reliable and efficient.

If motorbike tolls are charged, they will be half those paid by car drivers.

Yesterday's news drew a furious reaction from the Motorcycle Riders Association of Australia, whose president, Dale Maggs, threatened protest action if the change went ahead. "Economically and environmentally, motorcycles are a lot friendlier to Melbourne," Mr Maggs said. "We don't degrade the road like cars and trucks do.

"They want to charge us half, but motorcycles weigh only a fifth of what a car does."

Rear-view cameras have been installed at all 17 tolling points along CityLink and will soon be working to identify car traffic. But testing of motorcycle number plate recognition will continue.

Ms Calvert said that once a decision was made, motorcyclists would be given four months' grace to get used to the change.

"CityLink is a user-pays system and therefore it is only fair that all those who use the toll road should pay for that usage," she said.

"But up until now we haven't had a system that's enabled us to toll motorbikes with the required degree of accuracy and efficiency."

Mr Maggs said CityLink was breaching a verbal assurance given to motorcyclists in 2003 not to toll motorbikes for at least five years. He said the agreement was made after hundreds of motorcyclists clogged the Burnley tunnel, protesting against State Government moves to introduce front number plates.

He said that more protests could follow if Transurban did not change its policy. "We'll talk if they want to negotiate but if it turns out unsatisfactory to us then we'll make sure that they know we are here," he said.

The new cameras will also improve CityLink's ability to identify car drivers - allowing the road operator to consult a rear-view photograph when the front-on shot is unclear. Some drivers escape being charged because of unclear photographic evidence.

The "video matching fee" charged in cases where cameras are used to charge tolls rather than e-tags will also be reviewed after the new cameras are switched on and could rise from its current level of $1.20.

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guess it was inevitable...given Transurbans role in life
is to make as much money as possible ...call it greed if you like :evil:

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:00 am
by Smitty
mind you.........
I'm also curious how the system will go when a bike is lanesplitting through peak hour traffic with a row of cars under the cameras and a bike in the middle of the lane... :twisted: :twisted:

or for that matter, what happens if the plate points to the ground
coz the front wheel is a metre in the air.... 8)

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:15 am
by mfzx6r
I dont use it when I go to PI in my car I go around and it only adds 10 min so I'll just go around when on my bike ! they can belt it up their arse !!!!




mario

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:24 am
by javaman
So when's the protest ride ? :lol:

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:29 am
by Colette
Welcome to our world (NSW) :cry:

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:39 am
by ty
ah but look at the positive side...
If they're turning the cameras around (or setting new ones up), they no longer have an argument for frontal ID.
ty

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:40 am
by Zombie
thats bloody stupid, bikers will ride the "uncharged" roads thus increasing the congestion, (being that lane splitting is illegal the bikes will have to sit behind the cages!) It will also see a steep rise in accidents too. :x

Greedy bastards :twisted:

Smitty I wouldn't reccomend the lane splitting thing, good theory but you'll just end up with a bill for the toll and a fine for splitting lanes and a couple of kisses on your license.

I see that the bikes cannot be fitted witha tag, I think they need to change the tags before commencing on this idea :D

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:42 am
by Tenoq
But lanesplitting isn't technically illegal.

Re: re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:46 am
by samhasa636
Colettezzr600 wrote:Welcome to our world (NSW) :cry:
Except they will only pay half the toll. We pay the same amount as cars up here... now that's dropping your pants and giving 'the man' the nod :roll:

Re: re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:49 am
by Zombie
samhasa636 wrote:
Colettezzr600 wrote:Welcome to our world (NSW) :cry:
Except they will only pay half the toll. We pay the same amount as cars up here... now that's dropping your pants and giving 'the man' the nod :roll:
Ha ha, you really are in the wrong state.

Re: re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:53 am
by I-K
Colettezzr600 wrote:Welcome to our world (NSW) :cry:
Not quite, Colette... they're only going to toll the bikes at half of what cars pay, and, to be honest, I have to admit, through gritted teeth, that that's not far off fair.

After all, tolling bikes_was_always on the cards, and, as Ty points out, with this, there goes their justification for frontal ID. If anything, I'd almost venture a guess this announcement is a fig leaf for failure of the frontal ID trial; "Umm, look, we can't make front number plates work. You guys just better turn your cameras around".

As for the MRA threatening "protest"... puh-leeze. :roll:

Re: re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:03 am
by Smitty
javaman wrote:So when's the protest ride ? :lol:
Andy details here.....
http://www.mraa.org.au
(and no don't need to be a member)


cheers

Re: re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:26 am
by Blackzxr
ty wrote:ah but look at the positive side...
If they're turning the cameras around (or setting new ones up), they no longer have an argument for frontal ID.
ty
Was my first thought too, Tony. 8)

My foot reaches around to my plate anyway. :D

As for the wheelie, you wouldn't be supporting that kind of behavour on freeways, would you Smitty?

Re: re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:50 am
by Smitty
Blackzxr wrote:As for the wheelie, you wouldn't be supporting that kind of behavour on freeways, would you Smitty?
who me....????
suggesting antisocial behaviour..????? :supz:
like civil disobedience.... :twisted:






sometimes

re: Citylink Vic to toll bikes

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:24 pm
by mrmina
boys it was always gonna happen.

i've known about it for a while and did mention it before.

:x