Suspension progression

StuMiller · Post by **StuMiller** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:00 pm

Howdy,

I'm in the process of setting my 2007 ZX6 suspension for my 88kg arse and I thought I might post up some progressive pics.

I'm looking for advise, tips, tricks so I can learn as I go:

As follows:

(damn apple iPhone, can't upload them for some reason)

Stay tuned!

Btw, this may take a few weeks as I'm back in excitement city Nth Ryde tomorrow night to stay for the week.

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:29 pm

Setting the static sag should take all of 20 mins

I'd be looking for 30-35mm or so front and rear, some may say more, some may say less. But it's a road bike not a race bike and thats a good place to start IMHO. Then have a look and see how much travel you are using. Is it bottoming out? Does it still feel a little hard? Note and adjust as necessary

StuMiller · Post by **StuMiller** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:46 pm

I did dial the preload all the way out. I put a cable tie around the smaller piece and sat on it. The difference was 11mm. As mentioned, I'll post up pics when I download them tomorrow night.

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born green · Post by **born green** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:46 pm

StuMiller wrote:Howdy,

I'm in the process of setting my 2007 ZX6 suspension for my 88kg arse and I thought I might post up some progressive pics.

I'm looking for advise, tips, tricks so I can learn as I go:

As follows:

(damn apple iPhone, can't upload them for some reason)

Stay tuned!

Btw, this may take a few weeks as I'm back in excitement city Nth Ryde tomorrow night to stay for the week.

NO prob stu, let us kno when u finished, interested to kno how u go with the shock.

cheers

Blurr · Post by **Blurr** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:48 pm

Phil wrote:Setting the static sag should take all of 20 mins

I'd be looking for 30-35mm or so front and rear, some may say more, some may say less. But it's a road bike not a race bike and thats a good place to start IMHO. Then have a look and see how much travel you are using. Is it bottoming out? Does it still feel a little hard? Note and adjust as necessary

Listen to this man.

Put akvavit tie around you front fork tube so when the suspension travels it will leave the cable tie at your furthest traveled position. You should be looking for about 5-8 mm or so at a guess:

Mark a spot on you ducktail so you have a fixed reference to measure from the axle to said point.

Use your sidestand to lever the bike up on when lift each individual wheel off the ground. That way the misses can measure unsprung length while you lift the measure the sag while your arse is on it.

StuMiller · Post by **StuMiller** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:53 pm

I am taking note of all comments as it's all learning for me!

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born green · Post by **born green** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:54 pm

I think blurr, stu has found that post, with that long, long, story on setup, was a good read, but long!! just a matter of using what is usefull to him.
Am planing a trip to simmons plains early in the new year, so hope to catch up with stu, and maybe able to help, well thats the plan!!

Blurr · Post by **Blurr** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:22 pm

He asked for tips, did he not????

Strika · Post by **Strika** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:38 pm

I've got a couple of tips....... be good to your mother and don't eat yellow snow.

born green · Post by **born green** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:44 pm

Blurr wrote:He asked for tips, did he not????

Yep he did, stu allso said he found a post as well.
I did give him some tips on the rear shock, free sag, static sag and rider sag, and to set it up around 30mm.
I think i did, unless im going mad

Wsa on another post, i think!!!
But stu said he would be away for a week, so am waiting to hear from him.

Blurr · Post by **Blurr** » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:09 pm

Mate if you think this is only directed at you then do it via PM.

I started typing my post before stu posted up his link.

I have read your post in previous thread and know what you said, however he still felt he would ask the question AGAIN via this post on a public forum. Maybe you didnt make yourself clear enough or maybe he felt you might be full of shit. Mmmmmmm who knows , either way he asked again so I felt I may part with some of my knowledge to a question asked to the forum and all it's members , not just you.

StuMiller · Post by **StuMiller** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:44 pm

Just worked out how to upload images using this tapatalk...so forgive my disjointed post.

Anyway, I dialed the preload all the way out.

Put a cable tie around it and say my arse on the seat. The difference, 11mm.

......to be continued when I get home from Sydney.....

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RichB · Post by **RichB** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:41 pm

Good on you for trying to sort it out, Phil's ballpark figures will get you along, but wouldnt be uncommon on the 600s for racebike setup to be along the lines of 35/25 +/-2, so you might even find his settings firm! At the end of the day its not life and death, the bike still rides if the physical number is a few mm's off, and if it comes down to getting a new spring that is softer, I'd be extremely hesitant to change it out

I dont know about this other mega-post that has touched on it, and at the risk of repeating things, there is a right way to measure sag on bikes, and 10 ways to take shortcuts on how to do it in less time with less tools and equipment. The numbers are close, but different.

You may not like my final comment but IMO on the road - apart from ballpark settings - fine tuning a few mm for road riding makes flysh1t difference to anything but comfort, all arguments aside. Take it to the track etc, blah blah blah.

StuMiller · Post by **StuMiller** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:43 am

Thanks Rich, appreciate your comments. This is all learning for me, so I figured the more quality feedback from people in the know, the better.

I'm now across how to set the sag etc, so when I'm back home from work travel, I intend to finish this set up and tweak as needed for my next track day and also to cater for my everyday riding.

Cheers again!

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:11 am

Looks like your forks may have already been revalved, if the stickers that indicate its been to Krooz Tune are anything to go by. There is also the question "what else has been done"....springs, oil level, spacers etc?

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