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Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:14 pm
by seiko1
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/money/money ... 5860719998

I told ya, givem an inch and they'll take a fucken MILE! :x

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:20 pm
by javaman
The "Technology challenges" they mention may include some form of continuous malfunction of GPS tracking device on my bike due to "vibration" and "foreign matter impact" :lol:

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:23 pm
by seiko1
javaman wrote:The "Technology challenges" they mention may include some form of continuous malfunction of GPS tracking device on my bike due to "vibration" and "foreign matter impact" :lol:
A sledge hammer is foreign matter? :lol:

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:34 pm
by philbo
like F!!!! :x they cant even maintain roads some of the roads were better when they were dirt tracks, and most main roads you pay in sydney anyway... guess a certain government car would be getting my tracker then

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:14 pm
by Gosling1
it was only a suggestion :lol: - and like 95% of the suggestions in the Henry report, it was ignored by the govt.

I am not sold on the idea of being tracked all over the place by a GPS tracker in the car......but.....I think the idea of paying for road use, based on actual use - makes sense. Use the road heaps - pay for the privilege. Use it sparingly - and pay fuck-all.

How this can be achieved without violating privacy rights though......is the big problem.

8)

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:41 pm
by Blurr
seiko1 wrote:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/money/money-matters/henry-tax-review-tipped-to-include-plan-for-drivers-to-pay-by-kilometre/story-fn312ws8-1225860719998

I told ya, givem an inch and they'll take a fucken MILE! :x
seiko does your upper lip twitch with anger everytime you hear the word 'government' ??? :lol: :lol:

you sound like a broken record

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:52 pm
by Smitty
Gosling1 wrote:it was only a suggestion :lol: - and like 95% of the suggestions in the Henry report, it was ignored by the govt.

I am not sold on the idea of being tracked all over the place by a GPS tracker in the car......but.....I think the idea of paying for road use, based on actual use - makes sense. Use the road heaps - pay for the privilege. Use it sparingly - and pay fuck-all.

How this can be achieved without violating privacy rights though......is the big problem.

8)
with ya Gos
I like the concept...the problem is how to implement it without getting reamed by the guvmint
Mudderboike riders should pay little if it was introduced, in contrast a B Double takes up a shitload of roadspace
is slow and holds traffic up...ipso facto THEY PAY HEAPS

as I said i like it :kuda:

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:32 pm
by mike-s
Gosling1 wrote:I am not sold on the idea of being tracked all over the place by a GPS tracker in the car......but.....I think the idea of paying for road use, based on actual use - makes sense. Use the road heaps - pay for the privilege. Use it sparingly - and pay fuck-all.

How this can be achieved without violating privacy rights though......is the big problem.
Smitty wrote: with ya Gos
I like the concept...the problem is how to implement it without getting reamed by the guvmint
Mudderboike riders should pay little if it was introduced, in contrast a B Double takes up a shitload of roadspace
is slow and holds traffic up...ipso facto THEY PAY HEAPS
With you both.
Although i like the concept of "user pays" a lot, there are two bigarsed showstoppers. Privacy being the biggest issue, i can't see this being put into place WITHOUT some form of "for your own good" being involved. Secondly they've ignored bike riders and their lower footprint in the past in NSW, they'll do it again, and again, and again and again.....

Re: Tabacco tax annoyed you?...wait til you read this!

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:18 pm
by Smitty
mike-s wrote:............. they've ignored bike riders and their lower footprint in the past in NSW, they'll do it again, and again, and again and again.....
yeah Mike
us riders get reamed...regularly (and it doesnt matter what state you are in :roll: )

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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:31 pm
by bonester
Easy way is once a year speedo checks....no technology involved

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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:59 pm
by dilligaf
easier way is what they do now and have a 40 cents or so tax per litre of petrol

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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:48 pm
by bonester
Unfortunately...........

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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:27 pm
by swabio-ACT
Hmmm sounds a bit crazy to me..... there would have to be different rates depending on vehicle type / weight etc.... as trucks etc have a more damaging effect than cars and so forth....

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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:43 pm
by simidau
dilligaf wrote:easier way is what they do now and have a 40 cents or so tax per litre of petrol
which is fair, fuel = energy, more energy used more damage to roads. however the gov is very good at wasting money so they need more.

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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:35 am
by ty
I agree - odo checks could be the better option.
Once a year speedo checks would be easy - rego checks already involve noting the odo.
Just reintroduce basic rego checks for new vehicles rego, or whenever they're in for a service.

I also agree with Blurr though - you're starting to sound like a broken record Seiko.
What I've heard of the Henry report gives me a largely positive vibe from it in a big picture view - not surprised Rudd has ignored it.