When a LAMS bike is no longer a LAMS bike.
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:19 am
When the RTA released it's latest LAMS list GPZ_Jim contacted me to advise that the GPZ500 was no longer on the list. According to the RTA it's power to weight is above the guidelines for LAMS approval.
Jim and I have been dealing with the RTA to get this issue sorted out. When I purchased the 500 it was because it was on the LAMS approved list and had been since 2002. It would seem that the RTA has not had to deal with this issue before as it's take 2 weeks to finally receive an answer.
Dear Wayne,
Sorry for the delay in getting a response to you.
The LAMS scheme is in the process of being rolled out nationally by Austroads. New South Wales has been given the responsibility for reviewing all motorcycles eligible for LAMS. As part of this process, the EX500 (GPZ 500S) was reviewed based on current data and was found to exceed the 150kw/tonne limit. As such, this motorcycle has been removed from the list
I have been able to verify that you owned the motorcycle with the registration XXXXX with the VIN EX500AXXXXXX, as you stated.
However, RTA records indicate that your motorcycle was never issued with a LAMS code as the RTA's automated systems detected (from the power and weight figures entered) that the motorcycle was not eligible to be issued with a LAMS registration label and certificate.
I can confirm, however, that you are permitted to continue to ride this motorcycle as you purchased it when it appeared on the RTA's Approved motorcycles for novice riders list.
The RTA will be issuing you with a new registration label carrying an LA code (LAMS), as well as a formal letter confirming that you are permitted to ride this motorcycle. You will need to carry the letter when riding your motorcycle should a police officer query its LAMS status. The RTA is making this allowance in this one instance as you bought your motorcycle in good faith and that, although the motorcycle does not meet official LAMS requirements, it is marginally over the maximum threshold.
Notwithstanding this, the RTA will not be adding this motorcycle to the national LAMS list. Additionally, the LA code and registration will be removed from the motorcycle by the RTA if and when you choose to on-sell it.
With regard to your comments about the dyno testing of your friend's motorcycle, the output of a motorcycle at the rear wheel on a dyno does not accurately reflect its output at the crank. The RTA uses reflects the official homologation data that draws the engine output figures at the crank, and not from the rear wheel.
I trust this assists you with your enquiry.
For the record it's only just over the 150kw/tonne limit - from memory its 152kw/tonne.
Pretty happy with the result but it pays to make sure your bike is still approved
Jim and I have been dealing with the RTA to get this issue sorted out. When I purchased the 500 it was because it was on the LAMS approved list and had been since 2002. It would seem that the RTA has not had to deal with this issue before as it's take 2 weeks to finally receive an answer.
Dear Wayne,
Sorry for the delay in getting a response to you.
The LAMS scheme is in the process of being rolled out nationally by Austroads. New South Wales has been given the responsibility for reviewing all motorcycles eligible for LAMS. As part of this process, the EX500 (GPZ 500S) was reviewed based on current data and was found to exceed the 150kw/tonne limit. As such, this motorcycle has been removed from the list
I have been able to verify that you owned the motorcycle with the registration XXXXX with the VIN EX500AXXXXXX, as you stated.
However, RTA records indicate that your motorcycle was never issued with a LAMS code as the RTA's automated systems detected (from the power and weight figures entered) that the motorcycle was not eligible to be issued with a LAMS registration label and certificate.
I can confirm, however, that you are permitted to continue to ride this motorcycle as you purchased it when it appeared on the RTA's Approved motorcycles for novice riders list.
The RTA will be issuing you with a new registration label carrying an LA code (LAMS), as well as a formal letter confirming that you are permitted to ride this motorcycle. You will need to carry the letter when riding your motorcycle should a police officer query its LAMS status. The RTA is making this allowance in this one instance as you bought your motorcycle in good faith and that, although the motorcycle does not meet official LAMS requirements, it is marginally over the maximum threshold.
Notwithstanding this, the RTA will not be adding this motorcycle to the national LAMS list. Additionally, the LA code and registration will be removed from the motorcycle by the RTA if and when you choose to on-sell it.
With regard to your comments about the dyno testing of your friend's motorcycle, the output of a motorcycle at the rear wheel on a dyno does not accurately reflect its output at the crank. The RTA uses reflects the official homologation data that draws the engine output figures at the crank, and not from the rear wheel.
I trust this assists you with your enquiry.
For the record it's only just over the 150kw/tonne limit - from memory its 152kw/tonne.
Pretty happy with the result but it pays to make sure your bike is still approved
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