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another key question
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:12 am
by zxnator
i have only the black key for my zx10r 05 dose this mean im fuged for reprograming another key, or is there a way of programing of the black like cars such as holden. ????

Re: another key question
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:02 am
by Cwidova
i would say that you would have problems getting another key.....from what i have heard to get another red key to program the black ones you have to change the ecu
Re: another key question
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:11 am
by Maccarocks
No you can get a copy made for your black key...!! I did this to both of my ZX10's I had... the 06 model and the 08...
I have the contacts and it can be done, however it is very expensive..!! as in $220 - $250 per key.... But you will get another key, exactly the same as your original all with a new chip programmed inside. Trouble is getting your key here to Melb to get it done..!! and seriously, $250 is not expensive when you consider the price of a new ECU and installation..???
You could send the key here via registered post, express and I would send it back with the spare via registered post express... that's the only way I would trust doing it... and it would be back to you overnight or at least in 1 day...???
Macca

Re: another key question
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:27 pm
by smithy5
You have only one black key and you are thinking of putting it in the post

I would ride to Melbourne and don't let the key out of your sight.
I had the same hassle when I got my 07 ZX10R....... I ended up taking the dealer to Dept Fair Trading and in the end the dealer replaced the ECU etc etc and I had to contribute $500..... supose to cost over $2,000.......... I now have a Red Key and two Black ones
I don't know if it's compatable with your 05 but Greenman has all you need off an 06 model for $400 which is a good price.......
Here it is here, check it out with someone if the 06 will fit the 05.......... OHH and don't forget your fuel tank and rear seat locks.....
http://www.ksrc-au.com/phpBB3/viewtopic ... 17&t=26354
Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:11 am
by zxnator
Maccarocks wrote:No you can get a copy made for your black key...!! I did this to both of my ZX10's I had... the 06 model and the 08...
I have the contacts and it can be done, however it is very expensive..!! as in $220 - $250 per key.... But you will get another key, exactly the same as your original all with a new chip programmed inside. Trouble is getting your key here to Melb to get it done..!! and seriously, $250 is not expensive when you consider the price of a new ECU and installation..???
You could send the key here via registered post, express and I would send it back with the spare via registered post express... that's the only way I would trust doing it... and it would be back to you overnight or at least in 1 day...???
Macca

hey mate cheers for the info,i got no prob with $250 as its cheaper than a $2200 ECU, but id have a prob with sending my only key in the mail. so im not sure what to do a this time, but i will concider your offer, thanks heaps

Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:12 pm
by zxnator
its a long shot idea, but if i could find the previous owner that crashed the black 10r in queensland some two months ago i could just buy the red key from him, i dont know who he is or if he is among the mortal as i perchased the bike at a salvage auction, hence no red key!!!!!!
Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:17 pm
by hoffy
rant....
why the hell dont keep their red key in a safe place and pass it on with the bike when they sell it..it's worth nothing to them anyway once they have sold the bike..
end rant....
Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:08 pm
by Wattie
hoffy wrote:rant....
why the hell dont keep their red key in a safe place and pass it on with the bike when they sell it..it's worth nothing to them anyway once they have sold the bike..
end rant....
insurance writeoffs Hoff, did your ZRX go to auction will all keys and books etc?
Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:32 pm
by robracer
zxnator wrote:its a long shot idea, but if i could find the previous owner that crashed the black 10r in queensland some two months ago i could just buy the red key from him, i dont know who he is or if he is among the mortal as i perchased the bike at a salvage auction, hence no red key!!!!!!
Not a silly Idea, on my trackie that was a RWO the paperwork / owners manual & log book were under the seat & had all the details of the original owner..................Bingo

Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:50 pm
by zxnator
^^^^^^^ i wish i found some info under the seat, but i just found a dusty tool kit, i now have about 6 fuking good to no one tool kits..... damn it!
Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:08 pm
by smithy5
zxnator wrote:its a long shot idea, but if i could find the previous owner that crashed the black 10r in queensland some two months ago i could just buy the red key from him, i dont know who he is or if he is among the mortal as i perchased the bike at a salvage auction, hence no red key!!!!!!
I bought mine from a kawasaki dealer as a company demo, turned out the sales manager bought the bike from Victoria for himself and then sold it to me
I tried to track the previous owner down in Victoria but due to privacy, no one will give you the information
Maybe start a thread here titled "QUEENSLANDERS LOOK HERE" you might get lucky but I don't like your chances...... good luck...
Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:31 pm
by Maccarocks
Hi ZXnator... I know the frustration of only having the black key..!! I lived with the 1 key for almost 2 years searching for a way to get a spare.. then finally I got in contact with the right people and was able to get it copied professionally... What a relief... and I didn't mind paying the price either.. so it was a win / win for me..!!
I do see the situation with the postage, and I would be stressing as well, that's why I specified registered post, I would even go express overnight delivery, door to door and sign for delivery as well..!! I know you pay for it, but I have not lost anything that way either.. it get's tracked the whole way... I would reckon the total would be around $300 paying for the postage and key duplicating...??
Anyway.. see how you go... I am here and you can PM me anythine..
Macca

Re: another key question
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:59 pm
by Wattie
i went to a local locksmith in Windsor NSW, when i got my Kawasaki blanks cut, he said thought he could program them himself. he stuck my red key in his machine and got a chip number off it, checked his book and said it could possibly be done.
go check a decent locksmith.

Re: another key question
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:15 am
by zxnator
Maccarocks wrote:Hi ZXnator... I know the frustration of only having the black key..!! I lived with the 1 key for almost 2 years searching for a way to get a spare.. then finally I got in contact with the right people and was able to get it copied professionally... What a relief... and I didn't mind paying the price either.. so it was a win / win for me..!!
I do see the situation with the postage, and I would be stressing as well, that's why I specified registered post, I would even go express overnight delivery, door to door and sign for delivery as well..!! I know you pay for it, but I have not lost anything that way either.. it get's tracked the whole way... I would reckon the total would be around $300 paying for the postage and key duplicating...??
Anyway.. see how you go... I am here and you can PM me anythine..
Macca

cheers macca, i might even concider flying down on one of my RDO fridays i can just fly out from ballina, get the key programed and see melbourne for the day. ill see how i go though. thanks again.

Re: another key question
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:25 am
by zxnator
just another idea, USA model 10r's dont have KISS fited, maybe i could get a US ECU as they are cheap, then remove the amplifier/key reader thats behind the left hand mid panel and that sould in theory work. ????????????? ...........i think ill start back on the beers about now!!!!!